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Jim in NC wrote:
How much less bandwidth than with the commercial apps? What you thinking for a price? TAFs and METARs are simply downloaded and displayed. They're typically maybe a hundred bytes each, if that. My app has no real bandwidth advantage over the web browser if you know the URL for the TAF/METAR you want and you don't need to load some sort of a query page like ADDS (hint: try http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/obs...tions/K???.TXT, replace ??? with a station identifier in caps). RADAR images are GIF files that are typically 15-30k bytes each. Satellite images are 100k-300k jpg's. The original poster said he doesn't want graphics because he's paying a penny a kilobyte, meaning a 10-frame radar or sat animation could cost several dollars to view, which does seem unreasonable to me too. I feel less bandwidth constrained using wi-fi that I leech for free wherever I can and that I can see becoming more ubiquitous with time (on a tangent, I believe we'll have cheap wireless TCP/IP in the cockpit as well as in the coffee shop before long). I also feel that a picture is worth a thousand words and I'd rather see animated radar and photos than a TAF if I had to choose between them. The bandwidth savings gained using my app versus a web browser comes from the fact that I avoid the overhead associated with downloading the ADDS (or wherever) html page to query for a METAR or TAF and I avoid the html AND a java applet (which may or may not run on my Pocket PC anyway) to see an animation. I've also discovered that animating the ADDS prog charts (displaying them in timed sequence) gives an interesting "big picture" of the weather over the next few days that I haven't seen anywhere else. As for price, I'd charge the maximum that the market will bear. ![]() I'm toying with the idea of giving the application away for free, with some limited functionality, say maybe METARs but not TAFs and still images but not animation, and charging a license fee to add the ability to view TAFs, RADAR and sat animation, and to stay updated as data source locations change (or better yet, a modest regular subscription fee to motivate me to keep links current and to keep looking for new and interesting sources of data). As to what the fee would be exactly, I'm not yet in a position to gauge what the market will bear. What would you be willing to pay? ![]() -R |
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thanks Gig, I was wondering about a soft button requirement. I ran the
page on an emulator site and it looked like it showed a generic "send" button as a go button. The emulator only produced one of the dropdowns. Dave 68 7ECA Gig Giacona wrote: It is an error in the page or more likey something left out. When I tried it I too just got the drop down selection menu and no go button my Sprint/Samsung phone did have an "accept" soft button to take the place of the GO button. Not long ago NOAA/NWS created a WAP site and they also left of the GO button and there was no soft button either. I e-mailed them and they responded that they would forward the issue to the programers. It was fixed in a day or two. Now there is both a GO and a soft button. I assume different phone/SW combos use a different method of selecting from a pull down menu and it is something that the programer of the site has to take into account. Gig "dave" wrote in message ... Gig, I tried it with my kyocera 7135, it a cell phone with a palm pilot. I can get the page to load but all it shows me is two drop downs. I can select different items but the page never advances to show me any result based on my selection. I'm using the kyocera web browser. Maybe I need another browser. Dave 68 7ECA Gig Giacona wrote: "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message egroups.com... I'm not able to figure out what mapmx does. You send them an SMS and they send you a METAR? I have GPRS with GSA so I can browse for METARs on the web, but I'm paying 1cent per KByte over the cellualar network so I'm looking for something low bandwidth. (BTW: The wap.cupitt.com website does not work. It just tries to download some application). did you try the wap.cupitt.com with your cell phone? It works fine for my Sprint phone and is about as low bandwidth as you can get. And that's not an application it's a language, like HTML that Explorer doesn't handle. Gig |
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I forgot to mention that fly.dsc.net has metar and taf downloads.
Dave 68 7ECA Robert M. Gary wrote: Any opinions on the best websites for mobile users? duat.com is WAY to expensive because of the graphics (probably 10Kbytes just to load the title). duats.com is better but still has a lot of crap on the opening page. Does anyone know of a good site (modeled after something like mobile.espn.com or something?) -Robert |
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"Rob" writes:
I'm not yet in a position to gauge what the market will bear. What would you be willing to pay? ![]() I don't have any wi-fi capability yet, but I agree it's coming eventually to even dinosaurs like me. So, when I have wi-fi and am considering your application, I'd pay on the order of a membership fee in an aviation group: $30-$50 per year. I'm a 100 hour/year, VFR type of guy who does one longish (600 nm or greater) cross-country a year in a small 2-seater. |
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I'm on a Dell Axim x50v PDA with BlueTooth to my AT&T Motorola V551
internetting via GPRS (over GSM). -Robert |
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![]() Robert M. Gary wrote: Any opinions on the best websites for mobile users? duat.com is WAY to expensive because of the graphics (probably 10Kbytes just to load the title). duats.com is better but still has a lot of crap on the opening page. Does anyone know of a good site (modeled after something like mobile.espn.com or something?) -Robert You might try http://www.palmflying.com/mobile/walocate.html this is the mobile weather page found on PalmFLYING.com. |
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Have you taken a look at http://www.smartsoft.no ? They offer useeful
aviation stuff for mobile phones. "PS" wrote in message oups.com... Robert M. Gary wrote: Any opinions on the best websites for mobile users? duat.com is WAY to expensive because of the graphics (probably 10Kbytes just to load the title). duats.com is better but still has a lot of crap on the opening page. Does anyone know of a good site (modeled after something like mobile.espn.com or something?) -Robert You might try http://www.palmflying.com/mobile/walocate.html this is the mobile weather page found on PalmFLYING.com. |
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