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Bob,
Please state the many bugs you mention. Especially the bugs butterfly acknowledged. Otherwise, you're just a a drive by shooter ;-) Thanks, Sean |
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![]() The bugs have been submitted to butterfly, and I have better things to do with my time than placate name callers. What you should be asking is for Butterfly to make the bug list public so that you have not only the ones I have submitted but also those submitted by others, and a roadmap of releases when they will be fixed. zendesk, github issues, GetSatisfaction are all platforms where developers can have a transparent dialog with their customers. |
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:36:27 PM UTC-4, Bob Pasker wrote:
The bugs have been submitted to butterfly, and I have better things to do with my time than placate name callers. What you should be asking is for Butterfly to make the bug list public so that you have not only the ones I have submitted but also those submitted by others, and a roadmap of releases when they will be fixed. zendesk, github issues, GetSatisfaction are all platforms where developers can have a transparent dialog with their customers. I too use iGlide in addition to my permanently mounted computer. I am not sure what Bob is talking about. Bob, after trashing the iGlide product it would be very appropriate for you to tell us about the most annoying bugs you encountered. Give us 3 please. Andrzej |
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 2:36:27 PM UTC-7, Bob Pasker wrote:
The bugs have been submitted to butterfly, and I have better things to do with my time than placate name callers. What you should be asking is for Butterfly to make the bug list public so that you have not only the ones I have submitted but also those submitted by others, and a roadmap of releases when they will be fixed. zendesk, github issues, GetSatisfaction are all platforms where developers can have a transparent dialog with their customers. So I guess it isn't "riddled with bugs" after all. Dan, it isn't that you can't do most of the things on XCSoar, given enough time and attention. There are things though, like adding a turn point to the task *in the air* that the extra time and attention is unwanted and sometimes even dangerous. If you are happy with the Dell and XCSoar you are way ahead since the cost is so low. But for me there are better offerings. |
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Of course each of us likes what he likes. I have no problem with that.
It's when I hear false information about one thing in the promotion of another that I offer my opinions. I keep hearing about "adding a turnpoint IN FLIGHT" so I fired up my XCSoar simulator. Here's how it went: On course, I decided I wanted to add a point. I touched that point and an info display popped up, I touched the "next" arrow and selected "Insert into task". That was it! Nothing more. How difficult or distracting was that? Truly I don't care what you or anyone else uses to plan or execute his flights. I just don't like to see one product unjustly promoted or disparaged when compared to another. Next thing you know we'll be hearing that the global climate is changing... Of course it is, as it has been for the past 4.3 billion or so years! On 5/14/2015 6:30 PM, jfitch wrote: On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 2:36:27 PM UTC-7, Bob Pasker wrote: The bugs have been submitted to butterfly, and I have better things to do with my time than placate name callers. What you should be asking is for Butterfly to make the bug list public so that you have not only the ones I have submitted but also those submitted by others, and a roadmap of releases when they will be fixed. zendesk, github issues, GetSatisfaction are all platforms where developers can have a transparent dialog with their customers. So I guess it isn't "riddled with bugs" after all. Dan, it isn't that you can't do most of the things on XCSoar, given enough time and attention. There are things though, like adding a turn point to the task *in the air* that the extra time and attention is unwanted and sometimes even dangerous. If you are happy with the Dell and XCSoar you are way ahead since the cost is so low. But for me there are better offerings. -- Dan Marotta |
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 2:36:27 PM UTC-7, Bob Pasker wrote:
What you should be asking is for Butterfly to make the bug list public so that you have not only the ones I have submitted but also those submitted by others, and a roadmap of releases when they will be fixed. zendesk, github issues, GetSatisfaction are all platforms where developers can have a transparent dialog with their customers. Umm... no tech company in their right mind that is developing a commercial product is going to make their bug list public. Bug tracking is included with github projects, but that is because github projects are open source and collaborated on using github. |
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Bob, your credibility is gone with me on this topic. I believe you found no bugs at all. Moving on to relevant input...
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As another happy iGlide user, I don't understand Bob Pasker "riddled with bugs" comment either. I know of some obscure bugs in the full version, but nothing that an owner of the lite version would encounter.
I echo the comments of the other iGlide users who have posted: put forward a list, Bob! Otherwise you're just trashing a good product without justification. -John, Q3 On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 9:12:16 AM UTC-4, Bob Pasker wrote: thanks everyone who decided it was better to question my bona fides or my experience than to answer the question! but after wading through that stuff, it seems like there's only 1 alternative, WinPilot, which I'll try, and I guess it behoves me to continue to push on the butterfly guys to fix the bugs and improve the experience. |
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It would be quite interesting to hear comments from people who actually use the software about ways to improve the user experience. Bob (or anyone else using or trying WinPilot), don't hesitate to submit your feedback directly from the app to developers by going into "Settings.Account-Type your message to developers here".
Also, at this point all the known crashing bugs have been fixed, but we are always happy to learn and fix new ones - use the same mechanism to report them. The software should work quite well on iPhone 6 plus at this time. Also, there is a new real time Doppler Radar overlay for the Usa users, we are looking forward to hear from people who tried this. If people like it, we can implement it for other regions as well. Your Winpilot Team. |
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