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Old September 4th 03, 02:58 PM
Tim Newport-Peace
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In article , Mike Borgelt
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I think your problem is actually in the other gliders. The MicroAir
receiver is narrow band. Other transmitters may meet the older
specifications but may have a problem talking to a MicroAir receiver.
I think that was what the MicroAir designer was talking about at
Kingaroy a few months ago.

Mike Borgelt

Mike, what exactly are you saying by narrow band? Is the Microair
8.33Khz spacing (which we are threatened with)?

Tim Newport-Peace

"May you be cursed with a chronic anxiety about the weather."

John Burroughs (1837-1921).
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Old September 5th 03, 12:20 AM
Mike Borgelt
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:58:44 +0100, Tim Newport-Peace ]
wrote:

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In article , Mike Borgelt
writes

I think your problem is actually in the other gliders. The MicroAir
receiver is narrow band. Other transmitters may meet the older
specifications but may have a problem talking to a MicroAir receiver.
I think that was what the MicroAir designer was talking about at
Kingaroy a few months ago.

Mike Borgelt

Mike, what exactly are you saying by narrow band? Is the Microair
8.33Khz spacing (which we are threatened with)?

Tim Newport-Peace

"May you be cursed with a chronic anxiety about the weather."

John Burroughs (1837-1921).



I'm not sure of the exact details but the implication was that the
MicroAir was tighter than required for 25Khz spacing. I'll ask.

Mike Borgelt
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Old September 4th 03, 03:41 AM
Steve Pawling
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Andy,

I have the same situation that you described with my Microair. Just
about every glider sounds different and I sure appreciate those with
"tight" radios. I agree with Mike Borgelt's reply that the other
radios are not up to par.

Overall the Microair has performed well (except for the excessive
sensitivity) but I would rate the quality of finish and external
components (judged by the feel of the pots, etc.) as only average. My
old Dittel was really nice...

Steve
LS-3a AM

snip

I am happy with mine except that I still have not resolved a problem
that a few gliders that I fly with are very distorted and unreadable,
while most are clear even when very close.

Andy (GY)

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Old September 4th 03, 01:29 PM
Ray Lovinggood
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I have a Microair in my glider and there are a couple
of gliders in our club that I can't understand transmissions
coming from their radios.

One is equipped with an (identical?) Microair and the
other is equipped with either a Dittel or a Becker.
Other gliders hear them fine. All I hear is a garbled
message. I can usually determine who is speaking by
the sound of their voice, but I can't distinguish the
words.

I do plan on taking the glider to a radio shop and
have them check it out, including the antenna.

Is it my radio or the others? I suspect it is my radio
since others here the 'garblers' clearly. They all
say my transmissions are clear.

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
LS-1d (In need of a snorkle this year...)


At 12:36 04 September 2003, Andy Durbin wrote:
Mike Borgelt wrote in message
I have a Microair in my ASW-28. It has a front panel
squelch control
that can be very useful for shutting out chatter from
distant sites
while still leaving the volume high enough to hear
safety calls from
proximate gliders. Other 'top of the line' glider
radios have no
pilot adjustable squelch.

I am happy with mine except that I still have not
resolved a problem
that a few gliders that I fly with are very distorted
and unreadable,
while most are clear even when very close.

Andy (GY)


I think your problem is actually in the other gliders.
The MicroAir
receiver is narrow band. Other transmitters may meet
the older
specifications but may have a problem talking to a
MicroAir receiver.
I think that was what the MicroAir designer was talking
about at
Kingaroy a few months ago.

Mike Borgelt


Mike,

I suspect you are right nut I have not yet been able
to confirm with
frequency measurements.

Is the MicroAir designed with a narrow IF passband
to support 12.5kHz
channel spacing? It only allows selection of 25kHz
channels. If that
is the case perhaps they would consider a design change
to widen the
IF passband.

Has Australia changed to 12.5kHz spacing?

Andy (GY)




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Old September 13th 03, 07:00 PM
Joe Lacour
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I'm re-painting some gel coat spots on my LS and was wondering what
everyone is using for the red trim color. The original stuff is Nitro
Cellulose Lacquer. So, I call up the local body shop only to find that
lacquer is on it's way out of major production. Too bad as it's nice
stuff to work with, cheap, light, can be put on thin, and easy to
patch. I've found some by looking on the internet but it only comes in
one color red and gallons.

I'm also re-finishing the elevator and would like to sand the gelcaot
and paint it with lacquer. Won't add weight that way.

The LS also has some red tape to blend the seal on the rudder. Any
idea where to get this red tape?
--
Joe LaCour
KineOptics
120 Golden Pheasant Dr.
Slidell, LA 70461-3116

985-649-0602
Optical & Mechanical Instrument design/fabrication
http://www.kineoptics.com/





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Old September 13th 03, 11:07 PM
Ralph Jones
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On 13 Sep 2003 18:00:07 GMT, Joe Lacour
wrote:

I'm re-painting some gel coat spots on my LS and was wondering what
everyone is using for the red trim color. The original stuff is Nitro
Cellulose Lacquer. So, I call up the local body shop only to find that
lacquer is on it's way out of major production. Too bad as it's nice
stuff to work with, cheap, light, can be put on thin, and easy to
patch. I've found some by looking on the internet but it only comes in
one color red and gallons.

I'm also re-finishing the elevator and would like to sand the gelcaot
and paint it with lacquer. Won't add weight that way.

The LS also has some red tape to blend the seal on the rudder. Any
idea where to get this red tape?


Nitrocellulose lacquer is model airplane dope -- the older nitrate
type. It's comparatively little used today because glow-engine fuels
attack it, but the larger hobby dealers have it -- and if you can't
find nitrate, the newer butyrate dope is usually compatible with it.
Buy a small sample, test it on an out-of-the-way spot, and you should
be able to get a color match with a little mixing.

rj
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Old September 15th 03, 05:58 PM
wsburhen
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you could also use acrylic laquer, which has huge advantages over over
nitro and no real disadvantage (it can be shot very thin) or a
basecoat/clearcoat
system, while a bit more work, can also be done thin/light and will be
many times more durable than nitrocellulose. Either of these two
systems can be EXACTLY color matched and are locally available
anywhere at an autobody supply store. Try Ditzler Duracryl for acryl
laquer, or Deltron for b/c system, or other types by Sikkens,
Martin-Senor, Glasurit, etc.
 




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