Best Soaring Flight Sim?

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I highly recommend the SFS PC. It stand for Soaring Flight Simulator.
Before I was introduced to it by a well know soaring personality, I had
dismissed a PC based simulator.

This software provides the feel, visuals and technical input to be a real
adjunct to live training. In fact in Germany some clubs use this simulator
in parallel.

Does it simulate motorglider power operations in anyway? Self-
launchers can be complex to operate, and something like this might be
a good review before the season starts.
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Eric Greenwell
Richland, WA (USA)

I have not explored the Motor Gliding side of the program.
I will try the DG 800 which is provided and let you know how it will work.
Udo


Does it simulate motorglider power operations in anyway? Self-
launchers can be complex to operate, and something like this might be
a good review before the season starts.
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Eric Greenwell
Richland, WA (USA)

Eric,
The DG800 M works as I would expect a motor glider to behave under power.
I took off under own power landed with power and did a few retract and
extent cycles.
All in all very impressive.
Udo
Does it simulate motorglider power operations in anyway? Self-
launchers can be complex to operate, and something like this might be
a good review before the season starts.
Eric Greenwell
Richland, WA (USA)

If you haven't tried Sailors of the Sky(www.sailorsofthesky.com)
yet, then you definatly should. Good flight dynamics
and glider handling. More included glider types (18)
than any other glider sim. Includes an editor to easily
create more. In fact, about 10 additional gliders
have already been built by people other than the program
designer. Comes with 4 soaring sites (Minden, Kufstein,
Ocana & Mafikeng) with the full version. Includes
a terrain editor to create new sceneries. In fact,
several have already been created by others. Finally,
it is currenlty the only Glider Sim that allows for
multiplayer flying across the internet. This includes
both pleasure and competitions. There is an active
multiplayer and competition community which has formed.
Check it out.Later!-MarkAt 20:06 14 September 2003, Eggs wrote:Thanks to everyone for the great info regarding plans-built
gliders. I'mstill doing some research, hopefully will find something
soon.In the meantime, anyone have any suggestions for a
good PC flight simulatorprogam for soaring? I've loaded the trial version of
'Soaring FlightSimulator' and it seems pretty impressive, but before
I part with the $70registration fee, I thought I'd ask you gurus for your
opinions.I also have Microsoft FS 2000. Would it be worth the
upgrade to 2004? Isthere a way to make it a better, more realistic, soaring
sim?Questions, questions. Someday I'll have answers to
share too.Thanks!Curt[remove parentheses from (@) in address to reply directly]

Martin-Have you checked out these?

http://www.edimensional.com/products/trackir.htm

I use there 3D system and am quite pleased with it.
Using addon scenery and gliders in FS2k2, I self-launch
and ridge soar at Torrey Pines for a quick flight.
The virtual cockpit in 3D is very good in the ASW28.
I agree that there is still a long ways to go-and
I miss the periphael vision.




At 19:24 15 September 2003, Liam Finley wrote:
Martin Gregorie wrote in message news:...

- no glider simulator can give realistic all round
views and won't
until there's a good VR helmet available. Looking
through the
'letterbox' and flipping it round with the coolie
hat is no
substitute.

- no butt feel


I agree, the limited field of view inherent to PC based
simulators is
one of the primary reasons I regard them as little
more than toys, no
matter how good their graphics and sound effects become.
This
limitation may be tolerable for power sims, since power
pilots rarely
look out the window anyways, but for soaring it's leaving
out an
essential part of the experience. I've been playing
with PC
simulators for about 20 years, and in that time there's
been
approximately zero progress in this direction. I hope
we don't have
to wait for neural implants in another 20 years for
this to improve.

On 15 Sep 2003 20:01:15 GMT, Stewart Kissel
wrote:

Martin-Have you checked out these?

http://www.edimensional.com/products/trackir.htm

I use there 3D system and am quite pleased with it.
Using addon scenery and gliders in FS2k2, I self-launch
and ridge soar at Torrey Pines for a quick flight.
The virtual cockpit in 3D is very good in the ASW28.
I agree that there is still a long ways to go-and
I miss the periphael vision.


Very interesting and no, I hadn't seen them.

Have you got both the head movement sensor and the glasses? If so,
does it give a smooth scroll or jump as though the coolie hat has been
flicked? I'm guessing that it does the latter from the website
description.

Being picky, I'd want at least 300 degree horizontal smooth scrolling
and 270 degree vertical scrolling combined with the ability to scroll
as fast as I can move my head before I'd be happy. Oh yeah, and it
would need some work in the sim too, to stop it leaving the panel
always in view when you look round - unlike some (earlier?) versions
of MSFS.


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