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Old March 29th 16, 06:16 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Old March 29th 16, 07:11 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:16:07 -0400, wrote:

If only, what? If only the USA had purchased the aircraft?
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Old March 29th 16, 11:57 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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If only, what? If only the USA had purchased the aircraft?


The U.S. already had the F-100 as a transonic jet.

The Lebanese air force flew Hunters until a couple of years ago

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Old March 30th 16, 08:39 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:57:59 -0500, "Byker" wrote:

"Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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If only, what? If only the USA had purchased the aircraft?


The U.S. already had the F-100 as a transonic jet.

The Lebanese air force flew Hunters until a couple of years ago



Why should the US NOT have bought the Hunter? It's cost was only about
half that of the F100. That would have come to a $660-million saving
over the life of the aircraft, or about $6-billion in today's money.
Even if a decision to buy Hunters had been delayed until the F100 was
ready for service, the development cost of the Super Sabre
($23-million) would easily have been written off.

Then there was the F100's awful accident rate. 889 aircraft, or about
one-third of the total production, were lost to accidents, involving
the loss of 324 pilots.

OK, the F-100 was faster by about 25mph in level flight and ongoing US
developments called for somewhat different requirements.

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Old March 30th 16, 10:10 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 15:39:43 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:57:59 -0500, "Byker" wrote:

"Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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If only, what? If only the USA had purchased the aircraft?


The U.S. already had the F-100 as a transonic jet.

The Lebanese air force flew Hunters until a couple of years ago



Why should the US NOT have bought the Hunter? It's cost was only about
half that of the F100. That would have come to a $660-million saving
over the life of the aircraft, or about $6-billion in today's money.
Even if a decision to buy Hunters had been delayed until the F100 was
ready for service, the development cost of the Super Sabre
($23-million) would easily have been written off.

Then there was the F100's awful accident rate. 889 aircraft, or about
one-third of the total production, were lost to accidents, involving
the loss of 324 pilots.

OK, the F-100 was faster by about 25mph in level flight and ongoing US
developments called for somewhat different requirements.


I am unable to find any historical information about the USA having considered purchasing the Hunter. If you
can point me toward any such information, it would be an interesting read.
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Old March 31st 16, 01:46 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 15:39:43 -0400, wrote:


Why should the US NOT have bought the Hunter? It's cost was only about
half that of the F100. That would have come to a $660-million saving
over the life of the aircraft, or about $6-billion in today's money.
Even if a decision to buy Hunters had been delayed until the F100 was
ready for service, the development cost of the Super Sabre
($23-million) would easily have been written off.

Then there was the F100's awful accident rate. 889 aircraft, or about
one-third of the total production, were lost to accidents, involving
the loss of 324 pilots.


Had Hunters served as many hours as the F-100, I would expect it to have
similar losses:
http://warships1discussionboards.yuk...6#.Vvxyr_krKUk

In wartime you can expect a lot of accidents (half the aircraft lost in WWII
were lost to accidents). From 1961 until their redeployment in 1971, the
F-100s were the longest serving U.S. jet fighter-bomber to fight in the
Vietnam War. Enemy fire and training accidents took their toll over ten
years.

Oh, and BTW, the F-105 Thunderchief became the dominant attack aircraft
early in the Vietnam War. The F-105 could carry more than twice the bomb
load farther and faster than the F-100, which was used mostly in South
Vietnam. Of the 833 F-105s built, a combined 395 F-105s were lost in
Southeast Asia, including 334 (296 F-105Ds and 38 two-seaters) lost to enemy
action and 61 lost in operational accidents.

OK, the F-100 was faster by about 25mph in level flight and ongoing US
developments called for somewhat different requirements.


Hey, you're catching on!

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Old March 31st 16, 01:57 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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"Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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I am unable to find any historical information about the USA having
considered purchasing the Hunter. If you can point me toward any such
information, it would be an interesting read.


I haven't found anything about considered purchases, but I have found a
number of comparisons between the Hunter and the F-86 Sab

http://warships1discussionboards.yuk...y#.Vvx0GPkrKUk

https://in.answers.yahoo.com/questio...0075828AA0Ocz9

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/thread...-fighter.5366/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0NmC0Jrx78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsaZ7BvvaZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbDg8hsl4wc


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Old March 31st 16, 05:25 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Very stimulating image. Kind of looks OK in USAF livery.
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Old March 31st 16, 06:13 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Very stimulating image. Kind of looks OK in USAF livery.


And in Korean War F-86 livery
 




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