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![]() I have seen the emergency services twice at a field that I have landed in. Both times we called them. Maybe it says something about your landings more than an uneducated public! ;-) At 08:24 22 January 2004, Mike Lindsay wrote: In article , Alistair Wright writes 'Martin Gregorie' wrote in message . .. On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:01:07 -0000, 'David Starer' wrote: Well Martin, you and I both know that whenever you land out in the UK there will shortly be police car and a crowd of gawpers asking where the 'crash' is! In more than twenty C/C flights I always encountered this response. Even when I showed people that my engine hadn't fallen off, they still often could not comprehend the idea of flying without one. So much for our 'air-minded public I used to think. On two occasions some local worthy actually summoned the Fire Brigade who were NOT amused to find no crash and certainly no fire. I had this happen when I landed near a busy road near Bury St Edmunds. I had a policeman on a motor-bite, two fire engines and a doctor. I tried to get the policeman to help me derig, I've never seen one disappear so quickly. But it was a Skylark 4, notoriously heavy. The next day I landed out again, my second phone call was a 999 to tell the police there wasn't an emergency. They were a bit non-plussed, but quite glad to know. -- Mike Lindsay |
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![]() ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Starer" Newsgroups: rec.aviation.soaring Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: Bad publicity I just searched on "glider" on the BBC's news web site. What I found shocked me. Of 46 results returned for the period since May 1998, not a single one mentioned any form of achievement whatsoever in gliding. See here for the search page: http://newssearch.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/...&start=1&q=gli der&scope=newsukfs Your search didn't reaveal this one http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1431834.stm about some 90 year olds having a few trial lessons, but it's still not the sort of publicity we want. When we were doing very well in the Junior world championships I emailed the BBC online sports people to draw their attention to it. This was on a day when they were covering the European Blind Football Championships, wheelchair tennis, World Netball Championships.and US baseball*. Now, I have no problem with them covering these minority sports, but you would have thought that they could make room for gliding amongst them. Predicably there was no response - not even a reply to my email. The BGA at this time were also producing a deluge of press releases so they really should have been aware of the British sucesses. A friend of mine once complained to the Times newspaper that they didn't cover gliding and their response was that they didn't have anyone to cover it. She said "yes you do" and became the voluntary Times gliding correspondent. They used some of the stuff she produced but eventually got bored with it. Perhaps someone needs to volunteer their services to the BBC. *I know baseball isn't a minority sport for many reading this, but I'm talking about the UK here. Stephen |
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Stephen Cook ] writes
A friend of mine once complained to the Times newspaper that they didn't cover gliding and their response was that they didn't have anyone to cover it. She said "yes you do" and became the voluntary Times gliding correspondent. They used some of the stuff she produced but eventually got bored with it. Perhaps someone needs to volunteer their services to the BBC. That's usually the way with the media (admittedly, I'm drawing more from my experience with music and theatre than gliding, but there might be an analogy here). If you point them at a story or item of interest and hope they'll cover it, odds are they'll ignore you. If, on the other hand, you cut out their need to do any real work themselves and provide them the story written up and ready to print, the hit-rate (and thus exposure) climbs considerably. Perhaps all clubs should have a "volunteer" in the form of a budding freelance journalist for feeding the press and public relations monster? And whilst 90 year old grannies taking to the sky might not be the sort of cut and dash image we'd really want to portray, any publicity is good publicity, and it was nice seeing a picutre of one of the club's K8s on the BBC website :P -- Bill Gribble /----------------------------------\ | http://www.cotswoldgliding.co.uk | | http://members.aol.com/annsweb | | http://www.shatteredkingdoms.org | \----------------------------------/ |
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The important publicity is in gliding clubs own hands,
local coverage is fairly easy to come by, have an open day, a charity event, an air show or just a feature on club achievements. This will get plenty of interested potential members to try gliding, assuming you have a reasonable population nearby it really is that easy. So why are numbers falling, because many clubs are so badly organised, new recruits and ab-initios are EXPECTED to hang around all day and maybe get a 5 min circuit at 4pm. In the past people had the time to do that, but today most do not, they value their time and want to feel that it is worthwhile. Pressure from work , family, partners and other sports terminates a great many flying careers, clubs must recognise this ( assuming they really want more members and by no means all do!! ). Notably, a few clubs have recognised this and are thriving, most have yet to change. Gliding need not be expensive, it will cost about £ 700 in flyingtime plus membership say £200 thats £900 for your first year and you should be solo by then, after that it's up to you. There are plenty of sports more expensive, boats, horses, motorcycles, golf and many others. Having my own glider I spend £2000 each year which is just about what it would cost to keep a horse, it is a comparison that I use to put the cost in perspective to outsiders. Everyone knows someone who has a horse even if they cannot afford one themselves. The majority of horse owners that I know are women, so they really do have time and money to follow their sport and are not tied to the sink exclusively. Regretably though most of them choose other ways to spend their spare cash. David Smith |
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From: "David Smith" Newsgroups: rec.aviation.soaring Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:37 PM Subject: Bad Publicity snipped So why are numbers falling, because many clubs are so badly organised, new recruits and ab-initios are EXPECTED to hang around all day and maybe get a 5 min circuit at 4pm. This is because launching facilities are usually pretty limited at most Clubs. Even when I instructed at the London Club which was staffed by professionals (as well as us amateurs) the launch rate was pretty pathetic. Some of this problem was down to inadequate provision of winches and tugs but a lot of it was just inefficiency and cost cutting (using cheap winch cable which broke a lot). Even aerotowing was not best quality due to underpowered tugs and an unwillingness to teach and use multiple towing. Pressure from work , family, partners and other sports terminates a great many flying careers, clubs must recognise this ( assuming they really want more members and by no means all do!! ). It eventually terminated mine! I was finding time in air /time on ground a very poor ratio and I was an instructor! I had other hobbies which provided a better ratio of enjoyment to ennui, and I gave up gliding with about 700hrs and a Silver C. I could see no chance of Gold without buying into a syndicate, as club aircraft were just not available for me to attempt the necessary tasks. While I enjoyed instructing (most of the time when I had pupils who were not trying to kill me) it wasn't enough to keep my enthusiasm going. No one at the club seemed bothered about my departure either. Having my own glider I spend £2000 each year which is just about what it would cost to keep a horse, it is a comparison that I use to put the cost in perspective to outsiders. Yes, but you overlook the investment in time that you put in to get to the stage where you were allowed to fly a high performance machine. I bet that cost a bob or two, and a lot of potential pilots just can't see that day coming and give up. Alistair Wright long retired glider pilot |
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