Interest in a 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Contest for 2018?

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 9:16:40 PM UTC-4, Ron Gleason wrote:
...I do not believe it is in the best interest if the SSA Contest Rules
Committee to have yet another class for a Nationals competition.

It's the IGC, not SSA, that created the 20m class, due to international
interest. USA lags rest of world here.

IF this held will take away from folks that would participate in the
2018 Sports Nationals, which are typically dominate by Duo's and Arcus'es?

Should not. My understanding is the USA 20m team selection criteria awards
points for 20m within sports or open as well (at least for 2016-2017).

See ya, Dave

PS: Don't forget about the up-and-coming 11m class.

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 6:16:40 PM UTC-7, Ron Gleason wrote:
On Wednesday, 31 May 2017 18:29:25 UTC-6, wrote:
I would like to fly this contest if I can get the Harris Hill Duo or another suitable glider, Great idea.
Sean Murphy
XC

I am not interested in contest and I do not believe it is in the best interest if the SSA Contest Rules Committee to have yet another class for a Nationals competition. IF this held will take away from folks that would participate in the 2018 Sports Nationals, which are typically dominate by Duo's and Arcus'es?

Oh wait we do not know when or where the 2018 Nationals are being held, how can we plan.

IMO class creep is bad for the competition scene with the SSA. What is next the folks asking for $$ to go to the World 20 Meter competition?

#classcreepisbad


Bif, the best of luck putting this together!
20m two-seater is quite a popular class internationally. It deserves a contest and records. There are about 100 20m two-seaters registered in the USA including Arcus, Duo, ASG32, DG1000. Do you think you can get a quarter of them?

What two-seater flying should be:
Check the spelling, but I think Heinz' first comment after he and Karin did their first Duo flight at Ely was:
"WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!"

YO, tell us more about the first 11m nationals. Is GBSC hosting? Will it be in February? Perhaps there's less rain then.
Jim

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:44:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
The SSA Rules Committee would like to gauge pilot interest in attending a potential 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Competition if it were hosted at Mifflin in 2018. The Rules Committee has determined that we need to have at least 12 confirmed entries if we are to proceed. Furthermore, time is of the essence if we are to have a chance of making this contest happen. If you would be definitely interested in attending this new National Contest, please respond to this thread or email me at as soon as possible.

Regards,

Bif Huss “H7�
SSA Contest Rules Committee

Would this a handicapped contest?
Uli
'AS'

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:21:47 PM UTC-4, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:44:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
The SSA Rules Committee would like to gauge pilot interest in attending a potential 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Competition if it were hosted at Mifflin in 2018. The Rules Committee has determined that we need to have at least 12 confirmed entries if we are to proceed. Furthermore, time is of the essence if we are to have a chance of making this contest happen. If you would be definitely interested in attending this new National Contest, please respond to this thread or email me at as soon as possible.

Regards,

Bif Huss “H7�
SSA Contest Rules Committee

Would this a handicapped contest?
Uli
'AS'

This class is planned to have limited handicapping with a handicap range from Arcus to abut .05 greater numerical handicap so as to try to draw Duo's, some DG 2 seaters, and possibly others.
UH

On Thursday, 1 June 2017 05:00:26 UTC-6, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:21:47 PM UTC-4, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:44:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
The SSA Rules Committee would like to gauge pilot interest in attending a potential 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Competition if it were hosted at Mifflin in 2018. The Rules Committee has determined that we need to have at least 12 confirmed entries if we are to proceed. Furthermore, time is of the essence if we are to have a chance of making this contest happen. If you would be definitely interested in attending this new National Contest, please respond to this thread or email me at as soon as possible.

Regards,

Bif Huss “H7�
SSA Contest Rules Committee

Would this a handicapped contest?
Uli
'AS'

This class is planned to have limited handicapping with a handicap range from Arcus to abut .05 greater numerical handicap so as to try to draw Duo's, some DG 2 seaters, and possibly others.

UH

I checked the results of 2016 Rules Committee survey and see that after considering all replies the Rules Committee stated they would look at holding a 2018 20 meter two place Nationals. Sorry I missed this before.

Best of luck

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 7:00:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:21:47 PM UTC-4, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:44:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
The SSA Rules Committee would like to gauge pilot interest in attending a potential 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Competition if it were hosted at Mifflin in 2018. The Rules Committee has determined that we need to have at least 12 confirmed entries if we are to proceed. Furthermore, time is of the essence if we are to have a chance of making this contest happen. If you would be definitely interested in attending this new National Contest, please respond to this thread or email me at as soon as possible.

Regards,

Bif Huss “H7�
SSA Contest Rules Committee

Would this a handicapped contest?
Uli
'AS'

This class is planned to have limited handicapping with a handicap range from Arcus to abut .05 greater numerical handicap so as to try to draw Duo's, some DG 2 seaters, and possibly others.
UH

Thanks, I am interested - tentatively.
Uli
'AS'

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 11:43:13 PM UTC-4, AS wrote:
On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 7:00:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 10:21:47 PM UTC-4, AS wrote:
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:44:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
The SSA Rules Committee would like to gauge pilot interest in attending a potential 20 Meter Multiseat Class National Competition if it were hosted at Mifflin in 2018. The Rules Committee has determined that we need to have at least 12 confirmed entries if we are to proceed. Furthermore, time is of the essence if we are to have a chance of making this contest happen. If you would be definitely interested in attending this new National Contest, please respond to this thread or email me at as soon as possible.

Regards,

Bif Huss “H7�
SSA Contest Rules Committee

Would this a handicapped contest?
Uli
'AS'

This class is planned to have limited handicapping with a handicap range from Arcus to abut .05 greater numerical handicap so as to try to draw Duo's, some DG 2 seaters, and possibly others.
UH

Thanks, I am interested - tentatively.
Uli
'AS'

Still soliciting multi seat pilots. Please respond if you would be interested in coming.

Bif "H7"

Still soliciting multi seat pilots. Please respond if you would be interested in coming.

Bif "H7"

Bif, I would be interested in bringing our Duo-t.

Rick
"PL"

Oh gawd, Uli wants to race the Spaghetti Bomber! That's enough on it's own to justify a Bus Class (as long as I don't have to help assemble it).

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 6:04:22 PM UTC-4, WB wrote:
Oh gawd, Uli wants to race the Spaghetti Bomber! That's enough on it's own to justify a Bus Class (as long as I don't have to help assemble it).

Ok - Wally is off the list for a free ride! ;-)
Uli