Beeping Thing

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:40:43 -0500, Slick wrote:

I can't figure out what this beeping thing was that I encountered the other
day while flying a 172 from our club. I'm a fresh private and I took my
parents to Mansfield airport for Sunday morning breakfast. When we left on
runway 14 This beeping thing came on. I think it's a DME. I've seen one in
use before, but I couldn't figure it out and it scared my mother half to
death, (She thought it was a sound that meant the engine was about to die).
How do I turn it off? This plane is equipped with the standard NAV/COM, it
has an ADF and Garmin GPS with moving map. I tried Flipping all kinds of
switches to turn it off and I couldn't figure it out. I knew it was a marker
of sorts, so I knew it would go away, I just hoped it would go away fast to
ease everyone anxiety. Any tips on how to turn it off?

Hey Slick,

Person before you probably was doing an ILS approach into your airport and
had NAV1 set up for the ILS for runway 32. As you climbed out, you passed
over the marker beacons that are designed for ILS approaches for runway 32.

Just turn the NAV1 frequency to another frequency, and that would have
turned the marker beacon off.

Allen

On 14 Feb 2005 18:23:14 -0800, wrote:

I would have thought that during your 40-50 hours of pilot training a
good instructor would have shot a few approaches during duel lessons
and you would have been aware of a outer marker passage.

Ben

Why would you think this??? It's not in the usual VFR syllabus.

I considered my VFR instructor an outstanding instructor, and not once did
we even look at the ILS features of NAV1 or NAV2.

His focus for teaching me landing techniques was outside the cockpit, not
on instruments inside.

Now, this all changed in my instrument training *smile*.

Allen

radios don't do exactely as they are told. We have a Cherokee I teach
in that requires you to dial 1 MHz more than the freq (KX-170B). So for
118.32 you have to dial 119.32. I'd never allow such things in my
Mooney but you have to break even in the renal market.

-Robert, CFI

Write it up.. and don't use the airplane?? maybe when the "owner" realizes
he's loosing revenue for a bad radio.. he'll get it fixed... I would never
take an airplane IFR like that.. I hope the bad one is "radio #2".. We had a
repeat problem like that with a radio here in the Arrow.. After I refused to
take the rental for IFR refresher.. because you could not tell what
frequency you were on.. the FBO swapped out the radio. Had the same problem
with "LEDs" failing.. cant tell Freq or read the DME.. can't fly one IFR
approach around here without DME.. so I refused the rental... He put in an
KNS80.

BT

" wrote:

I would have thought that during your 40-50 hours of pilot training a
good instructor would have shot a few approaches during duel lessons
and you would have been aware of a outer marker passage.

None of the planes I flew in training even *had* a marker beacon receiver.

George Patterson
He who would distinguish what is true from what is false must have an
adequate understanding of truth and falsehood.

Allen,

I'm just now learning about all this IFR stuff so I could be wrong
here. I'm under the impression that the markers are on "fixed"
frequencies not associatied with the NAVs.

I will look into this more...

a.




A Lieberman wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:40:43 -0500, Slick wrote:

I can't figure out what this beeping thing was that I encountered
the other
day while flying a 172 from our club. I'm a fresh private and I
took my
parents to Mansfield airport for Sunday morning breakfast. When we
left on
runway 14 This beeping thing came on. I think it's a DME. I've seen
one in
use before, but I couldn't figure it out and it scared my mother
half to
death, (She thought it was a sound that meant the engine was about
to die).
How do I turn it off? This plane is equipped with the standard
NAV/COM, it
has an ADF and Garmin GPS with moving map. I tried Flipping all
kinds of
switches to turn it off and I couldn't figure it out. I knew it was
a marker
of sorts, so I knew it would go away, I just hoped it would go away
fast to
ease everyone anxiety. Any tips on how to turn it off?

Hey Slick,

Person before you probably was doing an ILS approach into your
airport and
had NAV1 set up for the ILS for runway 32. As you climbed out, you
passed
over the marker beacons that are designed for ILS approaches for
runway 32.

Just turn the NAV1 frequency to another frequency, and that would
have
turned the marker beacon off.

Allen

Alan, all marker beacons transmit on 75Mhz. No way you are going to turn one
off by changing ILS freq. I think the audio panel suggestions are closer to
the solution.

Bob Gardner

"A Lieberman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:40:43 -0500, Slick wrote:

I can't figure out what this beeping thing was that I encountered the
other
day while flying a 172 from our club. I'm a fresh private and I took my
parents to Mansfield airport for Sunday morning breakfast. When we left
on
runway 14 This beeping thing came on. I think it's a DME. I've seen one
in
use before, but I couldn't figure it out and it scared my mother half to
death, (She thought it was a sound that meant the engine was about to
die).
How do I turn it off? This plane is equipped with the standard NAV/COM,
it
has an ADF and Garmin GPS with moving map. I tried Flipping all kinds of
switches to turn it off and I couldn't figure it out. I knew it was a
marker
of sorts, so I knew it would go away, I just hoped it would go away fast
to
ease everyone anxiety. Any tips on how to turn it off?

Hey Slick,

Person before you probably was doing an ILS approach into your airport and
had NAV1 set up for the ILS for runway 32. As you climbed out, you passed
over the marker beacons that are designed for ILS approaches for runway
32.

Just turn the NAV1 frequency to another frequency, and that would have
turned the marker beacon off.

Allen

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Allen,

I'm just now learning about all this IFR stuff so I could be wrong
here. I'm under the impression that the markers are on "fixed"
frequencies not associatied with the NAVs.

I will look into this more...

a.

Yup, they are low powered (3W) with a directional output (up). You fly over
it, and the marker beacon receives it.

None of the 150's we fly have IFR equipment. I flew Almost me entire
training in a 150.
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Slick wrote:
I can't figure out what this beeping thing was that I encountered the
other
day while flying a 172 from our club. I'm a fresh private and I took
my
parents to Mansfield airport for Sunday morning breakfast. When we
left on
runway 14 This beeping thing came on. I think it's a DME. I've seen
one in
use before, but I couldn't figure it out and it scared my mother half
to
death, (She thought it was a sound that meant the engine was about to
die).
How do I turn it off? This plane is equipped with the standard
NAV/COM, it
has an ADF and Garmin GPS with moving map. I tried Flipping all kinds
of
switches to turn it off and I couldn't figure it out. I knew it was a
marker
of sorts, so I knew it would go away, I just hoped it would go away
fast to
ease everyone anxiety. Any tips on how to turn it off?


I would have thought that during your 40-50 hours of pilot training a
good instructor would have shot a few approaches during duel lessons
and you would have been aware of a outer marker passage.

Ben Haas N801BH


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O.K. so it sounds like I had the right idea about how to turn it off, I just
didn't go far enough with it. I was switching frequencies on the stack radio
NAV, but I didn't try to change the GPS NAV, I think I might have gotten rid
of it there. I couldn't find a mute button anywhere next to the lights.
"A Lieberman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:40:43 -0500, Slick wrote:

I can't figure out what this beeping thing was that I encountered the
other
day while flying a 172 from our club. I'm a fresh private and I took my
parents to Mansfield airport for Sunday morning breakfast. When we left
on
runway 14 This beeping thing came on. I think it's a DME. I've seen one
in
use before, but I couldn't figure it out and it scared my mother half to
death, (She thought it was a sound that meant the engine was about to
die).
How do I turn it off? This plane is equipped with the standard NAV/COM,
it
has an ADF and Garmin GPS with moving map. I tried Flipping all kinds of
switches to turn it off and I couldn't figure it out. I knew it was a
marker
of sorts, so I knew it would go away, I just hoped it would go away fast
to
ease everyone anxiety. Any tips on how to turn it off?

Hey Slick,

Person before you probably was doing an ILS approach into your airport and
had NAV1 set up for the ILS for runway 32. As you climbed out, you passed
over the marker beacons that are designed for ILS approaches for runway
32.

Just turn the NAV1 frequency to another frequency, and that would have
turned the marker beacon off.

Allen



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It might be worth your time to go to:

www.garmin.com

www.bendixking.com

Check out their Audio Panels. Both sites have downloadable POH's for their
units that would help you know what's going on the next time you confront
the problem.





"Slick" wrote in message ...
I can't figure out what this beeping thing was that I encountered the
other
day while flying a 172 from our club. I'm a fresh private and I took my
parents to Mansfield airport for Sunday morning breakfast. When we left on
runway 14 This beeping thing came on. I think it's a DME. I've seen one in
use before, but I couldn't figure it out and it scared my mother half to
death, (She thought it was a sound that meant the engine was about to
die).
How do I turn it off? This plane is equipped with the standard NAV/COM, it
has an ADF and Garmin GPS with moving map. I tried Flipping all kinds of
switches to turn it off and I couldn't figure it out. I knew it was a
marker
of sorts, so I knew it would go away, I just hoped it would go away fast
to
ease everyone anxiety. Any tips on how to turn it off?



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