Relieving in flight

Fidel told me that the reason he wears rubber gloves during annuals is
because the gliders with an external relief tube are "Nasty". Translate
that to corrosion of lower rudder hinge, tail wheel axle and bearings,
main landing gear, etc.

On 12/21/2017 2:32 AM, Paul Ruskin wrote:
On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 4:01:31 AM UTC, JS wrote:
Seems best to install a conduit to push a tube attached to the catheter through, extending it beyond the laminar flow.

How far out do you need to go for the urine to miss the glider?

Transfix external catheters, with an external tube (from the BGA website for the Brits) work well for me.

Paul

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On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 7:29:42 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Gees, I dont know if I like that "adhesive" idea.

Hell I duct tape mine on. It is no fun to have a catheter come off at 17,500 two hours into 900 km flight, I know.

On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 8:51:01 AM UTC-8, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 7:29:42 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Gees, I dont know if I like that "adhesive" idea.

Hell I duct tape mine on. It is no fun to have a catheter come off at 17,500 two hours into 900 km flight, I know.

At Montague we put your phone number on the ziplock bag and drop on Steven Segals' ranch.

R

After one contest where i landed wet every day but the last trying various solutions, i finally iterated to an overboard tube with condom catheter. I buy them in boxes of 100 or so from Amazon. i'll wipe the belly. having a ziploc bag of pee in the cockpit with me is too stressful. Having containers of pee in the cockpit just seems to me like a bomb waiting to go off.

I use a quart sized zip lock baggie with a toddler size diaper folded inside of it (inside out, with the absorbent part exposed). This takes care of the danger of the bag getting punctured, since the diaper soaks up the liquid (in a couple of minutes). Yes it's a bit of a distraction when using it, but I can choose when to use it, during a quiet part of the flight (cruise rather than thermal).

And I never throw it overboard - bad PR!

I have the adhesive catheter/overboard system. It works great. The tube exits the fuselage bottom a bit off center. I just put a little rudder in to yaw the ship when necessary. This seems to keep the stream of the bottom. Pour some water through at the end of the day to keep things clean. One consideration is the temperature. You don't want the tube clogged with a frozen block of urine. My solution is a second length of tubing with a quick disconnect. When finished dumping ballast I disconnect the catheter, connect the second tube and blow air through and then re-connect the catheter. I've heard of a t-connector being used for the same purpose. As mentioned in another thread, there seem to be two types of catheters - those that won't stay on and those that won't come off. The second is better. There is a liquid called Detachol that releases the adhesive pretty much instantly. Goo Gone might do the same thing but Detachol is made specifically for this purpose. Check the archives, this topic has been discussed thoroughly in other threads.

Coloplast will send you a bag full of samples if you go to their website. I thought for sure that I'd be put on a mailing list, but haven't heard anything more once I placed my sample order last spring.

There is a circumference sizing template to print and cut out as well. Use it! No man will guess the correct size...

Paul A.

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Ok guys, this has probably been covered in older posts but what are you all using regarding urinary relief on long flights? Ive used gallon ziplock bags in the past but whats your experience with cathaters. What brand and how are they.

Hospital urine bag with extended wear external catheter. That way no urine gets on glider, nothing to mess with in flight. One note: extended wear means one day not one season!

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Ok guys, this has probably been covered in older posts but what are you all using regarding urinary relief on long flights? Ive used gallon ziplock bags in the past but whats your experience with cathaters. What brand and how are they.

External catheter. Trim local hair beforehand or pay the price.
This connects via a quick disconnect to a probe that sticks out the bottom of the fuselage about 8 inches. Probe is 3/8 OD polyflo tubing. This is stiff but somewhat bendable. When not in use, disconnect,pull up, and tuck in one of the available straps(usually a seat belt strap).
A small mylar flap covers the exit hole when probe is not out.
Belly and cockpit stay clean and minimal hyjinks to use.
UH

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Ok guys, this has probably been covered in older posts but what are you all using regarding urinary relief on long flights? Ive used gallon ziplock bags in the past but whats your experience with cathaters. What brand and how are they.

My old ship had a tube system that exited just ahead of the gear doors. a gentle side slip and flush it with water helped keep the underside of the plane clean... ship side of the tubing had a quick connect clip. Used a disposable external catheter with a quick connect clip on the end of it. Kept another foot long section of clean tubing with a connector to attach and flush system out after use in flight.
New ship doesn't have plumbing installed, use these for now.
http://www.traveljohn.com/products/d...osable-urinal/
Double bag inside gallon zip lock bags as extra security. Can use catheter with short tubing to ensure better accuracy as well with this set up..