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Old March 6th 05, 01:30 AM
Blueskies
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com...
I don't think he "flew". He never left ground effect.


So by that definition, the Wright brothers didn't 'fly' until 1905...


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Old March 6th 05, 03:52 AM
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no, it's ok. when they flew, ground effect hadn't been invented yet.

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Old March 6th 05, 04:58 AM
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no, it's ok. when they flew, ground effect hadn't been invented yet.

You mean Dan Quale wasn't around?

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Old March 6th 05, 05:04 AM
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Blueskies wrote:


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...
I don't think he "flew". He never left ground effect.


So by that definition, the Wright brothers didn't 'fly' until 1905...


I've also heard someone say he flew farther then the Wrights as some sort of
justification for this "flight". All of these comparisons are lame.

I don't see anything that looks like ailerons on the wings, was he even
prepared for flight? Elevators?

Part of the "Wright stuff" (what a great pun) was the understanding the role
of control and providing for it in their designs. Without it there is no
airplane, just a toy.

Nowadays there are plenty of ways to calculate ahead of time whether or not
the machine is capable of flight. Eyeball, by gosh and by golly engineering
also went out with the Wrights. My guess is they knew it was just capable
of a hop and figured that was the safest way out. Otherwise they could have
put more wing on it and got a real flight.
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Old March 6th 05, 05:20 AM
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"Frank...." wrote:

I don't see anything that looks like ailerons on the wings, was he even
prepared for flight? Elevators?


I see a control horn and aileron hinge line on the right wing. There are also
signs of hinges and a visible control wire for a rudder on the right vertical
stabilizer. The horizontal stabilizer isn't visible in the photo I see.

George Patterson
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Old March 6th 05, 06:00 AM
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("Jose" wrote)
no, it's ok. when they flew, ground effect hadn't been invented yet.


You mean Dan Quale wasn't around?



AlGore

....waiting for AlGore to reinvent himself.


Montblack
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Old March 6th 05, 09:20 AM
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Who cares!!! jesse james is my hero!!! (well......sorta)

Actually the producer Hugh King is my hero as he makes getting your hads
dirty a cool thing!! The lack of skilled tradepersons in the steel trades
here in canada is a very real problem and we all feel it!


Putting wings on a car and making it fly a few feet may look impresive but I
am hoping that some impressionable young lad or lass sees this and decides
that being a Doctor or Lawyer is not for them and will try out the trades
and build something really incredible!

I have watched Monster Garage since it was first aired on Discovery Channel
and I love it!


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Old March 7th 05, 04:12 PM
Frank
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George Patterson wrote:



"Frank...." wrote:

I don't see anything that looks like ailerons on the wings, was he even
prepared for flight? Elevators?


I see a control horn and aileron hinge line on the right wing. There are
also signs of hinges and a visible control wire for a rudder on the right
vertical stabilizer. The horizontal stabilizer isn't visible in the photo
I see.

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.


I stand corrected, it does have ailerons. However according to a blurb in
the AOPA e-newsletter it "...had no rudders, so crosswinds were a concern".

I'm sure it's entertaining and all, my gripe is with the comparisons to the
Wrights and the notion that this is some sort of serious attempt to fly.

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Old March 10th 05, 07:49 PM
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Larry Dighera wrote:

Here's a photo of the latest flying car in flight:
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories...2751&ran=95111
MAPLE, N.C. — An adoring crowd whooped and hollered as Jesse
James, host of the hit television show “Monster Garage,” flew
Friday – just about as far as the Wright brothers did – in a
sports car with wings at the Currituck Regional Airport.


I wonder which "Cessna engine" they used?
"For this project, James chose engineers from Cessna and from the makers
of the Panoz"
 




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