Another plane down

(Jeff wrote)
" Quoting a small amount of relevant material is always a good idea, but
viewing the messages as a thread in a threaded newsreader makes it clear
what post was being referred to.


I (occasionally) run into problems figuring a post out because I often
delete the latest chunk of new messages after I've read through them. I
don't like all of those old messages hanging around - that's what
Google/Groups is for.

After I've cleared out the old messages, I'll generally read what arrives
new.

Oddly, I catch myself only skimming the fresh downloads when they are
dropped into an existing thread tree - an existing thread tree with hundreds
of old posts in it. Quirky me?

M$ OE 6.0
'Mark Conversation as Read' is a wonderful button :-)


Montblack

Jeff writes:

tony roberts wrote:

If you don't include at least a portion of the post that you are
addressing, then your post is meaningless as we don't know what you are
responding to!

Quoting a small amount of relevant material is always a good idea, but
viewing the messages as a thread in a threaded newsreader makes it clear
what post was being referred to.

If all the relevant posts have arrived at your server by then, and are
still visible, yes.

Quoting is much safer.
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Inexplicably, I looked up to hear/see a 182RG departing over my head.
With the 90-degree winds firmly out of the SOUTH, this guy was clearly
taking off with a fairly brisk tailwind.

Worse, Rwy 36 is only 2500 feet long now (with our newly displaced
threshhold) and departs into steeply rising terrain and downtown.

Glad they made it ok! But a displaced threshold shouldn't have
mattered--that doesn't reduce the distance available for takeoff (or for
landing in the opposite direction).

--Gary

Worse, Rwy 36 is only 2500 feet long now (with our newly displaced
threshold) and departs into steeply rising terrain and downtown.

Glad they made it ok! But a displaced threshold shouldn't have
mattered--that doesn't reduce the distance available for takeoff (or for
landing in the opposite direction).

Yeah, that didn't come out quite right.

I should have said "with our newly displaced threshold and the hundreds of
feet they've cut off the northern end of the runway."

Or something like that.

And soon (like, within a year) we'll lose that runway altogether.

:-(
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:tQwve.106673$nG6.47123@attbi_s22...
Worse, Rwy 36 is only 2500 feet long now (with our newly
displaced threshold) and departs into steeply rising terrain and
downtown. As he staggered over us, his wings were rocking
and it looked to me like he was steering to the west to avoid
hitting the University of Iowa Hospital

Glad they made it ok! But a displaced threshold shouldn't have
mattered--that doesn't reduce the distance available for takeoff (or for
landing in the opposite direction).

Yeah, that didn't come out quite right.

I should have said "with our newly displaced threshold and the hundreds of
feet they've cut off the northern end of the runway."

Actually, neither factor should have reduced their altitude at any given
distance to the north of the airport.

And soon (like, within a year) we'll lose that runway altogether.

Nearby construction?

--Gary

Gary Drescher wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
I should have said "with our newly displaced threshold and the hundreds of
feet they've cut off the northern end of the runway."


Actually, neither factor should have reduced their altitude at any given
distance to the north of the airport.


What if they had to climb slower than Vy because of the cut off part at
the northern end?

Displaced threshold should not have mattered, I agree on that.

Jay Honeck wrote:

Worse, Rwy 36 is only 2500 feet long now (with our newly displaced
threshhold) and departs into steeply rising terrain and downtown.

Does the displaced threshold affect the runway available for take off?
Usually they only reduce the amount of runway available for landing (and exist
due to reasons like obstacles in the way of a descent to the very end of the
runway etc.)

Jeff wrote:

Does the displaced threshold affect the runway available for take off?
Usually they only reduce the amount of runway available for landing (and exist
due to reasons like obstacles in the way of a descent to the very end of the
runway etc.)

I just saw this addressed in another post.

Jeff wrote:

Does the displaced threshold affect the runway available for take off?

No. As you point out, the displaced threshhold is only unusable for landing.

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Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

Arnold Sten wrote:
A Cherokee with four persons on board when down just after take off from
Harrisburg Capital City Airport (my home base) Runway 26 earlier this
afternoon. Details are sketchy, at best. I just returned from the FBO at
that airport and folks there can say very little about this incident.
Here is a preliminary news report:
http://www.thewgalchannel.com/news/4651740/detail.html

I'll post further details as they become available.
Arnold Sten
Here is the latest updated information that I have been able to find
out. The plane was NOT a Cherokee but a Cessna (no announcement about
size or type). At 2200Z an official announcement was made on the media
that the only survivor, the pilot, subsequently died. On board that
plane were the pilot's wife and their two young daughters (ages not
given). Eyewitnesses on the ground reported hearing a rough-sounding engine.
At the time of this crash, the air temperature was 96 degrees. The
altitude of this airport is 347 ft., but at the time of this crash the
density altitude was 2291 ft.
I'll keep you all informed as more information becomes available.
Arnold Sten