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Old July 6th 05, 05:40 PM
John Clear
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In article .com,
Paul kgyy wrote:

One of the other Cirrus cases was an aileron malfunction (missing hinge
or something). I'd hate to try a recovery in my arrow with an aileron
flapping in the wind.


That was the one that I've heard was repaired. It landed in some
trees/brush that took part of the impact. The usual write-up in
the aviation rags is that the Cirrus airframe is trashed by the
impact under the chute, but landing on the right surface can make
a difference. Of course, since you don't know what surface you'll
be landing on, it is better to assume the plane will be trashed if
you pull the chute. If you are to the point of worrying about
trashing the plane by pulling the chute, or trashing the plane due
to whatever emergency is causing you to think about pulling the
chute, it is time to pull the chute. Especially if whatever
emergency is likely to trash the plane by terminal impact with
terra firma.

John
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Old July 6th 05, 06:24 PM
Icebound
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"John Clear" wrote in message
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If you are to the point of worrying about
trashing the plane by pulling the chute, or trashing the plane due
to whatever emergency is causing you to think about pulling the
chute, it is time to pull the chute. Especially if whatever
emergency is likely to trash the plane by terminal impact with
terra firma.


Some instructor once told me that the number one rule of PIC is:

"Save the passengers but Don't try to save the plane"



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Old July 6th 05, 06:38 PM
Dale
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In article ,
"Icebound" wrote:


"Save the passengers but Don't try to save the plane"


If you save the airplane you can assume the passengers will also be
saved.

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There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

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Old July 6th 05, 05:49 PM
Jose
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I wonder if his condition, if
pre-existing, was known to his AME...


I'd suspect not. Don't you need an MRI to detect a brain tumor? They
are not required for a medical certificate.

Jose
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Old July 7th 05, 02:24 AM
Dave S
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Denny wrote:
.. It has been my impression that
deploying the chute causes irrepairable damage to the hull..


No... not the deployment.. the landing. And even that isn't always the
case. There has been a deployment or two where the plane landed on brush
or trees, cushioning the landing, and the plane was salvageable.

The grooves where the chute straps lie on the airframe are a matter of
putting a single layer of fiberglass over to repair (after the chute is
re-installed).

Dave

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Old July 6th 05, 05:36 PM
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Surely many or most of those aircraft could have been
flown to a safe landing.


Perhaps. I do suspect that if an aircraft has a BRS, then it probably
does leap inappropriately to the top of your emergency what-do-I-do
option list at times.

But if I were to suddenly have a stroke or heart attack, and feared
that I would (as others have) die before getting to a safe landing
zone... then sure, the BRS becomes a valid option to prevent injury to
yourself or others on the ground. Especially (tho not in this case) if
I had family or other non-pilots aboard.

Cheers,
Kev

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Old July 6th 05, 05:50 PM
Jose
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But if I were to suddenly have a stroke or heart attack, and feared
that I would (as others have) die before getting to a safe landing
zone... then sure, the BRS becomes a valid option to prevent injury to
yourself or others on the ground.


Yes, but after a moment's thought. Not after a fraction of a second.

Jose
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Old July 6th 05, 08:14 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Jose" wrote in message
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Yes, but after a moment's thought. Not after a fraction of a second.


First you complain that the guy thought about it? Then you complain that
someone might do it without thinking about it?

Huh?


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Old July 6th 05, 05:37 PM
William Snow
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I ask how many of these were unnecessary deployments, or events where the
pilot should have been able to land the airplane safely?

How about listing those numbers for comparison.

Bill Snow


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Old July 7th 05, 03:03 AM
Aluckyguess
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If you landed and your alive your passngers are alive who cares if you
pulled the BRS, your alive thats all that matters. The plane is a material
object it means nothing. My thought anyone who pulls that cord and lives did
it for the right reason.


 




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