Airmens' Freedoms Threatened by Harsh Congressional Proposals

They have installed missile systems at several locations around DC. I don't
know what missile system it is. Many of the batteries are in site of the
public. I heard this reported in main stream media, so it is no secret. I
think the AOPA had an article on it.

"Mike Weller" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:17:46 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:


Airmens' Freedoms Threatened by Harsh Congressional Proposals

Boyer added. "And
when you think about it, with F-16s and Patriot missile batteries
stationed around the area that are ready to inflict the ultimate
penalty on an errant pilot, what more deterrent could and should
there be?

There is not a PATRIOT missile anywhere near that area.

Ask me how I know that PATRIOT is an acronym! My wife invented it
and I have worked on PATRIOT since 1977.

JOVIAL is the password.

Mike Weller

I have no doubt that with all the military bases in the DC area that it's
got plenty of surface to air protection . I do recall not long after 9/11
hearing on the news that anti-aircraft batteries were around DC. Sorry but I
don't remember the source.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"bill hunter" wrote in message
...
They have installed missile systems at several locations around DC. I
don't know what missile system it is. Many of the batteries are in site of
the public. I heard this reported in main stream media, so it is no
secret. I think the AOPA had an article on it.

bill hunter wrote:
They have installed missile systems at several locations around DC. I don't
know what missile system it is.

The Avenger system.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

How long before Daley wants the same thing?

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
The most severe amendment, offered by New
Mexico Sens. Pete Domenici (R) and Jeff Bingaman (D), calls for a
$100,000 fine, confiscation of the aircraft, and a five-year loss
of flying privileges for "whoever negligently flies an aircraft in
a manner that violates the [700 square mile area] Washington,
D.C., Metropolitan Area Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ) and causes
the evacuation of a federal building or any other public
property...."

He already asked.

Steve Foley wrote:
How long before Daley wants the same thing?

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
The most severe amendment, offered by New
Mexico Sens. Pete Domenici (R) and Jeff Bingaman (D), calls for a
$100,000 fine, confiscation of the aircraft, and a five-year loss
of flying privileges for "whoever negligently flies an aircraft in
a manner that violates the [700 square mile area] Washington,
D.C., Metropolitan Area Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ) and causes
the evacuation of a federal building or any other public
property...."

Steve Foley wrote:
How long before Daley wants the same thing?

Last year.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Airmens' Freedoms Threatened by Harsh Congressional Proposals

As many predicted, the knee jerk congressional response to recent anti
GA news media stories threatens airmens' freedoms. Outrageously
unjust in their ill conceived penalty proposals, new legislative bills
reflect the current administration's siege mentality.

Well, the penalties are clearly ridiculous. But then, so is the ADIZ. It
shouldn't be much of a surprise that the Congress-critters, having gotten
annoyed at having to get out of their chairs and leave the building a couple
of times, would choose this reaction, rather than to pose the serious
question as to what the ADIZ and other flight restrictions in the area are
actually doing (answer: nothing, with respect to protecting DC).

I welcome the study, however. Assuming it's done honestly and efficiently
(two words not well-known among politicians, I realize), it could be just
what we need to get rid of the ADIZ altogether. The one major flaw in the
proposal is that it does not compare the risk to the public presented by
aviation to the risk presented by other forms of transportation. It is
insufficient to identify risks; those risks must be evaluated in context,
something the general public and the government are both chronically rotten
at doing.

Pete

Well, seeing how that Washington DC IS in a foreign country, an ADIZ
is appropriate, I guess. The more isolated they become though, the
scarier it gets. DC, another mess.

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:25:57 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote in
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It shouldn't be much of a surprise that the Congress-critters, having gotten
annoyed at having to get out of their chairs and leave the building a couple
of times, would choose this reaction, rather than to pose the serious
question as to what the ADIZ and other flight restrictions in the area are
actually doing (answer: nothing, with respect to protecting DC).


Prior the creation of the DC ADIZ, there were no evacuations (of which
I am aware). So those bureaucrats who were inconvenienced should aim
their venom at the creators of the ADIZ and it's poorly conceived
response policies, not airmen. I wonder how we could get that
viewpoint printed in the Washington Post or WSJ...

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:25:57 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote in
::

It shouldn't be much of a surprise that the Congress-critters, having gotten
annoyed at having to get out of their chairs and leave the building a couple
of times, would choose this reaction, rather than to pose the serious
question as to what the ADIZ and other flight restrictions in the area are
actually doing (answer: nothing, with respect to protecting DC).


Prior the creation of the DC ADIZ, there were no evacuations (of which
I am aware). So those bureaucrats who were inconvenienced should aim
their venom at the creators of the ADIZ and it's poorly conceived
response policies, not airmen. I wonder how we could get that
viewpoint printed in the Washington Post or WSJ...


Exactly right...