Solo IFR Currency

Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:

Assuming VMC conditions, is it legal for a current IR pilot to file an
IFR flight plan, and fly the flight *solo* wearing a hood, to meet
currency requirements? Of course the hood would be off for take-off


It's risky.

ptomblin wrote:


[...] How could you have passed your Private Pilot written without
understanding that ATC has no responsibility for separation between
VFR and IFR traffic?


But in US class B/C (and Canada class C), they do take on that
responsibility.


Well yes and no, when I've been under the hood in C when they clear me
for the approach one of the instructions is almost always "maintain VFR" .

xyzzy wrote:

Well yes and no, when I've been under the hood in C when they clear me
for the approach one of the instructions is almost always "maintain VFR" .

When on an IFR flight plan?

The OP was asking about filing and flying IFR, and then using a hood.

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Peter
























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"Brien K. Meehan" wrote in message
oups.com...
No, you'd be violating 91.113(b).

"...vigilance shall be maintained" is somewhat subjective. One could argue
that most pilots bust that one on every flight. What if you pop the hood up
every 30 seconds?

Fortunately 91.109(b) requires no interpretaion whatsoever:

(b) No person may operate a civil aircraft in simulated instrument flight
unless-
(1) The other control seat is occupied by a safety pilot who possesses at
least a private pilot certificate with category and class ratings
appropriate to the aircraft being flown.

(2) The safety pilot has adequate vision forward and to each side of the
aircraft, or a competent observer in the aircraft adequately supplements the
vision of the safety pilot; and

(3) Except in the case of lighter-than-air aircraft, that aircraft is
equipped with fully functioning dual controls...

(Sorry, now I note that Gary has already cited that one.)

Julian

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:03:55 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:


No. ****ing. Way.

Of course. Sorry guys. For those who were somewhat stunned, it was a
hypothetical question, and a very stupid one at that. In IMC, all
flights are supposed to be under control of ATC, in VMC, not.

S Herman wrote:

In IMC, all
flights are supposed to be under control of ATC, in VMC, not.

Huh (to the second part of your statement)?

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Peter R. wrote:

xyzzy wrote:


Well yes and no, when I've been under the hood in C when they clear me
for the approach one of the instructions is almost always "maintain VFR" .


When on an IFR flight plan?

No.


The OP was asking about filing and flying IFR, and then using a hood.

That's different. never mind

Julian Scarfe wrote:

"Brien K. Meehan" wrote in message
oups.com...

No, you'd be violating 91.113(b).


"...vigilance shall be maintained" is somewhat subjective. One could argue
that most pilots bust that one on every flight. What if you pop the hood up
every 30 seconds?

Fortunately 91.109(b) requires no interpretaion whatsoever:

(b) No person may operate a civil aircraft in simulated instrument flight
unless-
(1) The other control seat is occupied by a safety pilot who possesses at
least a private pilot certificate with category and class ratings
appropriate to the aircraft being flown.

(2) The safety pilot has adequate vision forward and to each side of the
aircraft, or a competent observer in the aircraft adequately supplements the
vision of the safety pilot; and

(3) Except in the case of lighter-than-air aircraft, that aircraft is
equipped with fully functioning dual controls...

bummer for throwover-yoke Bo pilots

Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
US Class C? I don't think so.

How do you read AIM 3-2-4 e, which reads "... VFR aircraft are
separated from IFR aircraft ..."?
I wasn't reading but considering now

[...] I can just see plugging along with a hood on in VFR while some
guy in 2 way radio contact is transiting the Class C.

The original poster was considering practicing with a hood, while
under an active IFR flight plan. Your scenario is different.

I meant to say "plugging along with a hood on in VMC..." I'm thinking
of the guy who is plugging along on an IFR plan in VMC while a VFR guy
enters the Class C based on his initial call being acknowledged before
his location is known or radar contact is made. Thinking that Class C
entry is permitted once your call is ack'd with your call sign

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:47:59 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote:

S Herman wrote:

In IMC, all
flights are supposed to be under control of ATC, in VMC, not.

Huh (to the second part of your statement)?

Uh, maybe more foot -in-my-mouth? :-) I mean that it's illegal to be
in IMC without a clearance, IOW, under the control of ATC. But in VMC
it's highly probable, outside of B airspace, that there are aircraft
not under ATC control.

On 7/28/2005 12:53, S Herman wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:47:59 -0400, "Peter R."
wrote:

S Herman wrote:

In IMC, all
flights are supposed to be under control of ATC, in VMC, not.

Huh (to the second part of your statement)?

Uh, maybe more foot -in-my-mouth? :-) I mean that it's illegal to be
in IMC without a clearance, IOW, under the control of ATC.


Actually, that's not quite true. You are required to have an IFR
flight plan and ATC clearance before you can fly in IMC within
controlled airspace (or within Class A regardless of the weather).

If you're outside controlled airspace, this rule doesn't apply.

But ... that's a whole 'nuther can-o-worms ;-)

But in VMC
it's highly probable, outside of B airspace, that there are aircraft
not under ATC control.

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Student
Sacramento, CA