Hurricane relief

Gary Drescher wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Yes, that is what the liberal media would have you believe and that is why
you mainly see black people on the roofs. It doesn't help the agenda
nearly as much to show a balanced cross section of those in desparate
straits.


Huh? Are you actually not aware that the vast majority of people stranded in
New Orleans are black? You think the journalists are just hiding the
pictures of the white folks when they pan their cameras down the streets or
around the stadium?

Majority, yes, 100%, no. I've not seen a white or Hispanic person yet
shown on a roof waiting. Are you actually not aware that the media
shows what is controversial rather than what actually is?

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Gary Drescher wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Yes, that is what the liberal media would have you believe and that is
why you mainly see black people on the roofs. It doesn't help the agenda
nearly as much to show a balanced cross section of those in desparate
straits.


Huh? Are you actually not aware that the vast majority of people stranded
in New Orleans are black? You think the journalists are just hiding the
pictures of the white folks when they pan their cameras down the streets
or around the stadium?

Majority, yes, 100%, no. I've not seen a white or Hispanic person yet
shown on a roof waiting. Are you actually not aware that the media shows
what is controversial rather than what actually is?

The news media craves dramatic imagery. Every available photograph of people
stranded on the roofs of nearly submerged houses is dramatic enough to get
wide circulation. Do you really suppose the media is suppressing the photos
of white people on rooftops?

More importantly, do you have a shred of *evidence* to support such a
supposition? (For example, have you found such suppressed photos in the
right-wing news outlets or blogs?) And can you explain why the images of the
hurricane victims more generally (apart from the handful of available
rooftop photos) do *not* exclude the minority of white victims, if there's a
liberal conspiracy to show only the black ones?

It's not enough that the victims of this natural disaster are being blamed
by some. You've even figured out a way to blame the news media for *showing*
the victims if the victims are disproportionately black.

--Gary

Matt Whiting wrote:

Majority, yes, 100%, no. I've not seen a white or Hispanic person yet
shown on a roof waiting.

I haven't watched TV in years. I've been getting my visual input from the AP
feed. That seems to be more balanced than what you describe.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

Matt Whiting wrote:
Majority, yes, 100%, no. I've not seen a white or Hispanic person yet
shown on a roof waiting. Are you actually not aware that the media
shows what is controversial rather than what actually is?

In the pictures, I can't even *TELL* what race the folks are. They just
look like very wet folks who could use some potable water, a hot meal, a
shower, and a lift to the nearest solid ground.

Why should anyone care about anything else?

-Luke

Gary Drescher wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrot...

Yes, that is what the liberal media would have you believe and that is why
you mainly see black people on the roofs. It doesn't help the agenda
nearly as much to show a balanced cross section of those in desparate
straits.

Huh? Are you actually not aware that the vast majority of people stranded in
New Orleans are black? You think the journalists are just hiding the
pictures of the white folks when they pan their cameras down the streets or
around the stadium?

The featured a few gay couples...

"Matt Whiting" wrote:

Yes, that is what the liberal media would have you believe and that is
why you mainly see black people on the roofs. It doesn't help the
agenda nearly as much to show a balanced cross section of those in
desparate straits.

Hee-hee!

That must be why Fox News was showing so many pictures of stranded black
people in New Orleans. They've turned liberal!

Matt Whiting wrote:

Yes, that is what the liberal media would have you believe and that is
why you mainly see black people on the roofs.

The video you speak of is pooled video from a photo journalist in a
helicopter flying around taking pictures of people being plucked from
rooftops. If that video shows mostly blacks being plucked from the
rooftops it is because most of the people being plucked from the
rooftops are black, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that.
Furthermore, I've seen a significant number of white people being
plucked from the rooftops so your conspiracy theory is nothing but
more of your inane racist bull****.

If you
really believe that what you are seeing on TV from the areas devastated
by Katrina is representative, then I feel very sorry for you as you have
been duped to the highest degree.

The fellow who killfiled you earlier today was correct, you are a
bigoted idiot! In truth, the TV news coverage has been quite balanced
in showing the devastation and the recovery efforts in the city of New
Orleans and points west such as Waveland, Gulfport, and Biloxi. The
reason you see lots of people being plucked from the rooftops in New
Orleans is because news agencies naturally seek dramatic visuals.
Despite a proclivity for showing dramatic visuals, the coverage has
been quite balanced and complete.

If one good thing has emerged from this thread, it is the emergence of
previously quite posters who have effectively refuted a handful of
newsgroup idiots, such as you, whose bigotry clouds their reason.

Gary, it is refreshing to see normally quite posters, such a you,
intelligently rebutting a handful of demonstrably narrow-minded and
bigoted talking heads.


"Gary Drescher" wrote:

Yes. It's important--and, often, ultimately effective--to speak out against
evil, even if the direct targets of your speech are unlikely to be
persuaded.

I've never had any illusion about what lurks just beneath the
public-relations veneer of "compassionate conservatism", so I'm not
surprised to see the giddy orgy of self-righteous disparagement here (and
elsewhere) that's being directed against the black underclass in the wake of
the hurricane's devastation; the right wing's ascendancy has led to some
unusually unguarded commentary.

I do hope and expect, though, that as the inhumane victim-blaming cruelty of
the right-wing agenda makes itself more boldly visible, their "let them eat
cake" sentiment toward compatriots in a dire emergency will prove
sufficiently shocking and revolting to most people to create a political
turning point.

--Gary

Gary Drescher wrote:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:_1sSe.4062$aG.3295@trndny01...
Blanche wrote:

You are insensitive and arrogant.

and probably too stupid to listen to you. Thanks for trying.

Yes. It's important--and, often, ultimately effective--to speak out against
evil, even if the direct targets of your speech are unlikely to be
persuaded.

I've never had any illusion about what lurks just beneath the
public-relations veneer of "compassionate conservatism", so I'm not
surprised to see the giddy orgy of self-righteous disparagement here (and
elsewhere) that's being directed against the black underclass in the wake of
the hurricane's devastation; the right wing's ascendancy has led to some
unusually unguarded commentary.

I do hope and expect, though, that as the inhumane victim-blaming cruelty of
the right-wing agenda makes itself more boldly visible, their "let them eat
cake" sentiment toward compatriots in a dire emergency will prove
sufficiently shocking and revolting to most people to create a political
turning point.


Personally, I find it just as offensive to suggest a secret 'agenda' by
a "compassionate conservative" conspiracy as it is to suggest an
opposite 'agenda' by a "liberal media." There are conservative racists,
and there are liberal racists. I don't like and don't agree with either
kind. I don't think you can assume that someone who is a "conservative"
on some issues is a racist, any more than you can assume that someone
who is a "liberal" on some issues is not. Most people are far more
complex than that.

While I see much of the media being intent on stirring up controversy
in order to increase viewership, I do not think that it is entirely
because of liberal bias. Rather, playing the race card is worth big
money, and the news media love getting people to kill each other for
fun and profit (the fun and profit of the news media, of course). In
this regard, CNN Asia has been downright evenhanded compared to BBC
World, which has been sickening. To be honest, the most balanced
reporting around here has been coming from the communist Chinese....

I really don't get the bit about the media showing only black people on
rooftops. Even BBC has been showing people of all types on rooftops,
getting rescued, looting, etc.

I also don't get the media complaints of the slowness of the response.
The first camera crews on the scene showed Coast Guard helicopters
rescuing people, National Guardsmen, police, and fire crews in the
center of New Orleans, etc. Obviously all of these emergency workers
managed to get there before the news media did.

If I was sitting in a pool of filthy water without food, fresh water,
or medical aid, no contact with the outside world and dead bodies
floating around me, completely unaware of conditions in the rest of the
city and the rescue efforts being made there, and some reporter came up
and said no one was coming to help and then turned on the camera and
asked me if I was satisfied with the speed of relief, I probably would
give the reporter just the answer he was looking for. Surprise,
surprise.

"cjcampbell" wrote in message
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Personally, I find it just as offensive to suggest a secret 'agenda' by
a "compassionate conservative" conspiracy as it is to suggest an
opposite 'agenda' by a "liberal media." There are conservative racists,
and there are liberal racists. I don't like and don't agree with either
kind. I don't think you can assume that someone who is a "conservative"
on some issues is a racist, any more than you can assume that someone
who is a "liberal" on some issues is not. Most people are far more
complex than that.

No argument there. I do not, by any means, simply equate conservatives with
racists (or liberals with the opposite). And yes, there are certainly many
conservatives who are compassionate. (Even the most egregiously offensive
posters here are likely compassionate in many aspects of their lives. People
are indeed complex.) But I do think "compassionate conservatism", as a
political movement, was engineered to whitewash for public consumption an
ideology whose motivations and effects are, on the whole, anything but
compassionate. (Surely it is not implausibly conspiratorial to suggest that
national political campaigns explicitly try to put an appealing spin on
their messages.)

--Gary