USAF considers new anti-ship weapon.

Joe Delphi wrote:
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Harpoon has been around for awhile now, though newer versions are an
improvement
over the original. Can Harpoon still hack it against modern air
defenses?



Yes, Harpoon has been in the Fleet since at least the late 1980s, but it is
still a formidable weapon. Not sure what a "JASSAM-variant" would offer
that would be significantly better than Harpoon.

What do you mean by "modern air defenses". Are you talking about the
automatic close in weapon systems that shoot out 1 zillion depleted uranium
rounds per second? Not sure who has those systems other than the United
States or how Harpoon or JASSAM would perform against that type of defense.


JD


If you are referring to Phalanx like CIWS (sans DU) then lots of navies
have them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIWS

rb

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The USAF is considering building a new weapon to go after heavily-
defended ships. See:



http://aviationnow.ecnext.com/free-s...icle=DEMO09135

Shouldn't the Navy be taking the lead on a project like this?


They already did, its called Harpoon. An anti-ship missile that can be
launched from aircraft, surface ships, or submarines.

Been there, done that.

We're all one big "joint" family now. The AF finally has to learn how to
attack
ships. :-) Wonder if they'll have to learn to land on a carrier too?

We "been there done that" with what 20-23 CV's???? Now we have what?
10-11? I'm sure this is a driving force behind the AF's interest.

Mark Test wrote:

We're all one big "joint" family now. The AF finally has to learn how to
attack
ships. :-) Wonder if they'll have to learn to land on a carrier too?

Careful there, the BUFF pilot I sit next to at work is an USNTPS grad
with numerous traps in Tomcats and Hornets. He didn't think they were
all that hard, but that could have just been bravado...

Michael Kelly
BUFF Flight Test Engineer

In article , Michael
Kelly wrote:

Mark Test wrote:

We're all one big "joint" family now. The AF finally has to learn how to
attack
ships. :-) Wonder if they'll have to learn to land on a carrier too?

Careful there, the BUFF pilot I sit next to at work is an USNTPS grad
with numerous traps in Tomcats and Hornets. He didn't think they were
all that hard, but that could have just been bravado...

But any BUFF traps? :-)

Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Careful there, the BUFF pilot I sit next to at work is an USNTPS grad
with numerous traps in Tomcats and Hornets. He didn't think they were
all that hard, but that could have just been bravado...


But any BUFF traps? :-)

Couple of his landings felt like traps last week , but he was
practicing EP's in variable winds.

Michael Kelly
BUFF Flight Tester

Michael Kelly wrote:

:Mark Test wrote:
:
: We're all one big "joint" family now. The AF finally has to learn how to
: attack
: ships. :-) Wonder if they'll have to learn to land on a carrier too?
:
:Careful there, the BUFF pilot I sit next to at work is an USNTPS grad
:with numerous traps in Tomcats and Hornets. He didn't think they were
:all that hard, but that could have just been bravado...

What the hell was a Big Wing guy doing getting his TP training at Pax?

--
"This is a war of the unknown warriors; but let all strive
without failing in faith or in duty...."

-- Winston Churchill

Fred J. McCall wrote:

What the hell was a Big Wing guy doing getting his TP training at Pax?

USAF routinely sends folks to USNTPS and even foreign TPS's to ensure we
don't become to narrow minding in our thinking. My cube mate was one
such person. I also used to work with a former commandant of USAF TPS
who was a graduate of the Royal TPS in England. In both cases they were
brought back as instructors after completing their respective TPS's.

As to a "big wing guy" going to USNTPS, he was an ENJJPT grad and had
almost 1000 hrs in T-38's instructing at Randolph (instructing
instructors).

Michael Kelly
BUFF Flight Tester

TASM is also Navy missile.

"Joe Delphi" wrote in message
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The USAF is considering building a new weapon to go after heavily-
defended ships. See:


http://aviationnow.ecnext.com/free-s...icle=DEMO09135

Shouldn't the Navy be taking the lead on a project like this?


They already did, its called Harpoon. An anti-ship missile that can be
launched from aircraft, surface ships, or submarines.

Been there, done that.

JD

In message aCscf.7724$6M6.3004@trnddc04, niceguy
writes
TASM is also Navy missile.

Out of service for some years now.

--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

"niceguy" wrote:

:TASM is also Navy missile.

Not any more.

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"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
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