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Old October 15th 05, 10:51 PM
Jonathan Goodish
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In article ,
"Montblack" wrote:
The 2005 Beechcraft Bonanza cost $727,000, but a Minnesota company said the
state could have bought a better plane for half the price. Now, lawmakers
wonder if the bid to buy the Beechcraft was rigged.


In my opinion, the Bonanza is a better plane than the SR22, though it
would seem to make sense that the State of MN should purchase a plane
manufactured by a MN company.

Nevertheless, I can guarantee that the state legislature has MILLIONS of
pork in other areas, so someone must have an axe to grind to pick up on
a possible $400k unnecessary expenditure.



JKG
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Old October 17th 05, 05:14 AM
Robert M. Gary
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In my opinion, the Bonanza is a better plane than the SR22

Well, a Citation is also better than a King air but they are different
planes. The SR22 is a good 2 person business plane (you can put kids in
the back but not suits), the Bonanza is a good 4/5 person plane.
-Robert

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Old October 17th 05, 04:29 PM
Jay Honeck
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Well, a Citation is also better than a King air but they are different
planes. The SR22 is a good 2 person business plane (you can put kids in
the back but not suits)


The SR-22 has an 1150 pound useful load. That's four 166 pounders with
full fuel, or four 200 pounders with (a still respectable) 58 gallons
on board.

The "suits" at your company must be super-sized if they can't fit in a
Cirrus!

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Old October 17th 05, 05:01 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

The "suits" at your company must be super-sized if they can't fit in a
Cirrus!


Perhaps the issue is more a matter of space than weight? It's also possible that
two adults in the back shifts the COG too far.

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Old October 17th 05, 05:03 PM
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On 2005-10-17, Jay Honeck wrote:
The "suits" at your company must be super-sized if they can't fit in a
Cirrus!


Generally, they often are! At my last job, my office happened to be on
'managers row' as it were (a cluster of managers offices were right by
mine). If there was one thing similar about each of the managers on my
row, it was that none of them weighed under 250 lbs.

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Old October 17th 05, 06:52 PM
Robert M. Gary
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The SR-22 has an 1150 pound useful load. That's four 166 pounders with
full fuel, or four 200 pounders with (a still respectable) 58 gallons
on board.


Its a space issue. Sitting in the back of an A36 is almost like sitting
in the back of an airline. Sitting in the back of an SR22 is like
sitting in the back of a VW bug. For non-GA people being shuttled
around on business, it could make a big difference.

-Robert

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Old October 17th 05, 08:39 PM
Dave Stadt
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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The SR-22 has an 1150 pound useful load. That's four 166 pounders with
full fuel, or four 200 pounders with (a still respectable) 58 gallons
on board.


Its a space issue. Sitting in the back of an A36 is almost like sitting
in the back of an airline. Sitting in the back of an SR22 is like
sitting in the back of a VW bug. For non-GA people being shuttled
around on business, it could make a big difference.

-Robert


VW Bug vs.airliner........soooooo what's the difference?


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Old October 17th 05, 10:46 PM
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com...
The SR-22 has an 1150 pound useful load. That's four 166 pounders with
full fuel, or four 200 pounders with (a still respectable) 58 gallons
on board.


Its a space issue. Sitting in the back of an A36 is almost like sitting
in the back of an airline. Sitting in the back of an SR22 is like
sitting in the back of a VW bug. For non-GA people being shuttled
around on business, it could make a big difference.

-Robert


I'm just glad the state bought a small GA plane and they are using it to keep their small airport infrastructure
up-to-date and active. Isn't the insurance pretty out of sight on the Cirrus also? I figure the state will self insure,
but even they play the odds when they figure costs. How do the operating costs compare, anyway?


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Old October 19th 05, 06:35 PM
Jonathan Goodish
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Default Bid to buy the Beechcraft was rigged?

In article . com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:
In my opinion, the Bonanza is a better plane than the SR22


Well, a Citation is also better than a King air but they are different
planes. The SR22 is a good 2 person business plane (you can put kids in
the back but not suits), the Bonanza is a good 4/5 person plane.
-Robert


The Citation and King Air are different airplanes marketed to different
target audiences. The SR22 and Bonanza are marketed to the same target
audience as far as I can tell.

I agree that the Bonanza is more suited to the mission that you describe
above, but calling the SR22 a 2 person airplane is so misleading that
it's just wrong. The SR22 has ample room and useful load for 4 adults.
I'm not sure how many "suits" would be riding around in a Bonanza these
days anyway.



JKG
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Old October 17th 05, 07:04 PM
Robert M. Gary
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Default Bid to buy the Beechcraft was rigged?

In my opinion, the Bonanza is a better plane than the SR22, though it
would seem to make sense that the State of MN should purchase a plane
manufactured by a MN company


Kinda like the flack that Bill Richards got for buying a Citation (or
similar) rather than an Eclipse (which isn't even certified yet).

-robert

 




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