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  #11  
Old October 24th 05, 11:02 PM
Tom Conner
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...


"Skylune" longislandsurfer@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message

news:13b989e940e7437e586f9ca1b7e75d86@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gary: Here's the link. Pretty much anything that that clown Boyer

says
is
totally irrational, sometimes even (like this example) what a

professor
used to call "internally contradictory." Yup, he said it, in AOPA
President's message.


http://www.aopa.org/prez/prespos.html



Will you learn how to post. Quote the text to which you are replying.



Trolls have difficulty with authority figures and taking orders.


Good post. However, if you want to consider yourself above everyone and not
bother with basic etiquette then that is your right. Just because someone
doesn't reply to a message does not mean that it isn't being read. Since
you never know who is reading your message, it is to your advantage to make
your posts readable and understandable. When you just post answers out of
context then it comes across as gibberish.


  #12  
Old October 24th 05, 11:15 PM
Skylune
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Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Damn. I can't find it. It came up on a Google News alert this AM. So

it
was just published. But it is in AOPA somewhere. The guy named Cerula
(spelling??) wrote (inanely) about the accident stats;


I was suspicious of the quote to begin with because it is so poorly
written;
AOPA's copy is usually competently edited. If you can't find a link to
the

statement, I'll assume it was not in fact issued by AOPA.

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...
"Skylune" wrote in message

lkaboutaviation.com...
AOPA posted this gem on accident statistics:

"Now put this into perspective with car crashes, household accidents,
medical mishaps, and the innumerable other risks of everyday life.

We're
talking losses on a monthly basis that likely exceed aviation losses

for
a
decade. The risk in aviation is negligible compared to some other

common
activities when exposure is considered. On a per-mile or per-trip

count

we
might not fare as well as we'd like, but most of us aren't aloft with
anywhere near the same frequency compared to traveling in

automobiles."
...
But you fail to mention where this quote appears. Can you provide a

link,
please?



Sheesh. Even though i posted the links to the other two site, you don't
believe me. Ok. I will find it, especially now that you've gone on the
record stating how poorly worded it is. I agree.

  #13  
Old October 25th 05, 12:58 AM
Skylune
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Gary wrote:
by "Gary Drescher" Oct 24, 2005 at 05:38 PM


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Damn. I can't find it. It came up on a Google News alert this AM. So

it
was just published. But it is in AOPA somewhere. The guy named Cerula
(spelling??) wrote (inanely) about the accident stats;


I was suspicious of the quote to begin with because it is so poorly
written;
AOPA's copy is usually competently edited. If you can't find a link to

the

statement, I'll assume it was not in fact issued by AOPA.



Well, you know the old saying about assuming, right Gary. Here is the
link to the article, in its entirety. (And, "competently edited" you say?
I assume you are joking.)

by "Gary Drescher" Oct 24, 2005 at 05:38 PM


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Damn. I can't find it. It came up on a Google News alert this AM. So

it
was just published. But it is in AOPA somewhere. The guy named Cerula
(spelling??) wrote (inanely) about the accident stats;


I was suspicious of the quote to begin with because it is so poorly
written;
AOPA's copy is usually competently edited. If you can't find a link to
the

statement, I'll assume it was not in fact issued by AOPA.


by "Gary Drescher" Oct 24, 2005 at 05:38 PM


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Damn. I can't find it. It came up on a Google News alert this AM. So

it
was just published. But it is in AOPA somewhere. The guy named Cerula
(spelling??) wrote (inanely) about the accident stats;


I was suspicious of the quote to begin with because it is so poorly
written;
AOPA's copy is usually competently edited. If you can't find a link to
the

statement, I'll assume it was not in fact issued by AOPA.

http://www.aopa.org/asf/asfarticles/2005/sp0511.html









  #14  
Old October 25th 05, 01:22 AM
Gary Drescher
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
by "Gary Drescher" Oct 24, 2005 at 05:38 PM
I was suspicious of the quote to begin with
because it is so poorly written; AOPA's copy is usually competently
edited.
If you can't find a link to the statement, I'll assume it was not in fact
issued by AOPA.


Well, you know the old saying about assuming, right Gary. Here is the
link to the article, in its entirety.
http://www.aopa.org/asf/asfarticles/2005/sp0511.html


Oh well. I guess I need to revise my expectations about AOPA's articles.
Thanks for the link.

--Gary


  #15  
Old October 25th 05, 01:43 AM
Skylune
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Anytime. The funny thing is that if the regular media had stated the very
same things in exactly the same way(e.g. "an inept instrument pilot
attempting to land," or " "Another accident cited the pilot of a
single-engine Cessna who had obtained a weather briefing the day before
the flight but "forgot" to get an update when fog covered the airport, and
the aircraft crashed somewhere in the county") the article would have been
ridiculed.

IMO, this AOPA article is a total hatchet job itself. Not only is it
poorly written, but the "statistical" paragraph is absolutely laughable.




  #16  
Old October 25th 05, 04:30 PM
John T
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Gary Drescher wrote:

Oh well. I guess I need to revise my expectations about AOPA's
articles.


What article? That was an opinion piece.

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  #17  
Old October 25th 05, 04:41 PM
George Patterson
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...

"Now put this into perspective with car crashes, household accidents,
medical mishaps, and the innumerable other risks of everyday life. We're
talking losses on a monthly basis that likely exceed aviation losses for a
decade. The risk in aviation is negligible compared to some other common
activities when exposure is considered. On a per-mile or per-trip count we
might not fare as well as we'd like, but most of us aren't aloft with
anywhere near the same frequency compared to traveling in automobiles."


The "this" referred to in the first sentence is the fact that five people had
died in 19 years at that airport and none had died during the last 13 years.
You're the one slanting things here, not Landsberg.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.
  #18  
Old October 25th 05, 04:55 PM
Gary Drescher
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"John T" wrote in message
m...
Gary Drescher wrote:

Oh well. I guess I need to revise my expectations about AOPA's
articles.


What article? That was an opinion piece.


Huh? Of course it's an opinion piece. Perhaps you're thinking of the
distinction between opinion articles and news articles (AOPA does not
purport to be a news publication), but both kinds are certainly articles.

--Gary


  #19  
Old October 25th 05, 05:36 PM
John T
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Gary Drescher wrote:

Perhaps you're thinking of the
distinction between opinion articles and news articles (AOPA does not
purport to be a news publication), but both kinds are certainly
articles.


I was dinstinguishing between a typical "article" which is a news story
rather than an opinion piece (usually classified as a "column", but is still
an article of the publication).

As an opinion column, it didn't disappoint me the way it seemed to
dissapoint you (even though I wouldn't have used the "exposure argument").

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Old October 25th 05, 06:12 PM
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You think that article (yes article: "A given section or item of a series
in a written document" American Heritage College Dictionary) is not
slanted?

I'm surprised you would think that.

 




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