AOPA Propaganda, cont.

by "Tom Conner" Nov 14, 2005 at 10:10 PM


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...

I am trying really hard to get a "news reader." The problem is that
the
local antiques dealer doesn't have anymore of the appropriate vacuum
tubes
to power the damned thing! Oh well, I'll have to stick to the thing
that
ALGORE invented.

Sure. Right. You are so technically advanced and everyone else is
backward. You go out of your way to insure that your point of view can
be
ignored and ridiculed. That doesn't appear to be a very successful, or
smart, strategy.

I'm not really that technically advanced, but I know how to use Al Gore's
internet and I have techies at the Help Desk!

Why would you say everyone else is backward?? I don't think that's true,
or very nice....

I am trying really hard to get a "news reader." The problem is that the
local antiques dealer doesn't have anymore of the appropriate vacuum tubes
to power the damned thing! Oh well, I'll have to stick to the thing that
ALGORE invented.

If you are running Windows 98 or XP, you already have an excellent (and
real) newsreader, called "Outlook Express".

It's also an excellent email program, and costs precisely...nothing, since
it comes bundled with Windows. It'll sure make reading your posts easier.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Skylune" wrote

On the training, I had settled on the Cessna (How the heck do you climb in
and out of the Piper if you're over 6' tall??? ;-) ). Then I called a
school someone had recommended (not at the local airport, which I
absolutely detest).

I'm sure the feeling is mutual!

above the basic requirements to get the ticket). I may have to just
content myself with sitting in the right seat of my buddy's Cessna and
working the GPS for him....

We're all impressed with your ability to play with a GPS. No need to keep
bragging about it.

by "Jay Honeck" Nov 15, 2005 at 01:37 PM


I am trying really hard to get a "news reader." The problem is that
the
local antiques dealer doesn't have anymore of the appropriate vacuum
tubes
to power the damned thing! Oh well, I'll have to stick to the thing
that
ALGORE invented.

If you are running Windows 98 or XP, you already have an excellent (and
real) newsreader, called "Outlook Express".

It's also an excellent email program, and costs precisely...nothing,
since

it comes bundled with Windows. It'll sure make reading your posts
easier.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Hi Jay! I guess I could do that more easily with my home computer.

On the training, I had settled on the Cessna (How the heck do you climb in
and out of the Piper if you're over 6' tall??? ;-) ). Then I called a
school someone had recommended (not at the local airport, which I
absolutely detest).

I can't believe how much it costs today!!! More than double what I would
have paid about 12 years ago had I continued, even if I redo the ground
training with a software program. And then there's the fuel costs.

I can no longer claim that $3K and four weeks in a learn to fly in a month
school gets a ticket for most anyone who really wants it. The figure today
is closer to $8-10K. I'm trying to see if I can make it work in retirement
without requiring me to go back to work FT. If I had to do that, I would be
in the same situation as last time when I spent a few thousand bucks only
to decide that I couldn't fly often enough to be proficient (that is,
above the basic requirements to get the ticket). I may have to just
content myself with sitting in the right seat of my buddy's Cessna and
working the GPS for him....

Responsible guys like yourself who got their ticket years back have a huge
advantage over newcomers. I have to believe that the flight schools are
suffering.

In article
outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:

by "Jay Honeck" Nov 15, 2005 at 01:37 PM


I am trying really hard to get a "news reader." The problem is that
the
local antiques dealer doesn't have anymore of the appropriate vacuum
tubes
to power the damned thing! Oh well, I'll have to stick to the thing
that
ALGORE invented.

If you are running Windows 98 or XP, you already have an excellent (and
real) newsreader, called "Outlook Express".

It's also an excellent email program, and costs precisely...nothing,
since

it comes bundled with Windows. It'll sure make reading your posts
easier.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Hi Jay! I guess I could do that more easily with my home computer.

On the training, I had settled on the Cessna (How the heck do you climb in
and out of the Piper if you're over 6' tall??? ;-) ). Then I called a
school someone had recommended (not at the local airport, which I
absolutely detest).

I can't believe how much it costs today!!! More than double what I would
have paid about 12 years ago had I continued, even if I redo the ground
training with a software program. And then there's the fuel costs.

I can no longer claim that $3K and four weeks in a learn to fly in a month
school gets a ticket for most anyone who really wants it. The figure today
is closer to $8-10K. I'm trying to see if I can make it work in retirement
without requiring me to go back to work FT. If I had to do that, I would be
in the same situation as last time when I spent a few thousand bucks only
to decide that I couldn't fly often enough to be proficient (that is,
above the basic requirements to get the ticket). I may have to just
content myself with sitting in the right seat of my buddy's Cessna and
working the GPS for him....

Responsible guys like yourself who got their ticket years back have a huge
advantage over newcomers. I have to believe that the flight schools are
suffering.


It sounds as if the programs and policies that "Skylune" are giving him
a dose of reality! He WANTS flying to cost us more, but now laments the
fact that it DOES cost more!

Advice to "Skylune": Don't spit in the well!

"Skylune" wrote:
Responsible guys like yourself who got their ticket years back have a huge
advantage over newcomers. I have to believe that the flight schools are
suffering.

I don't believe that.

It's all relative. People who got their tickets years back felt they
were paying through the nose, too. I worked at a flight school in recent
past ... our quote for the private rating was $8K, based on doing the
instruction in a C172SP, approximately 50 hours (give or take) and
supplies. You can, of course, select a less expensive airplane to rent
if one is available, and that cuts the cost *some*. Our school could
have employed more CFIs if more airplanes were available (if one is down
for MX, it's helpful to have more than one other available), and they
weren't the greatest at PR or promoting business. They added a surcharge
(x-amount/hour) to cover elevated fuel costs; people were happy when the
surcharge was dropped, but no one complained about it while it was in
effect, and few seemed to bat an eye at the $8K quote. I didn't see any
evidence they were "suffering"; in fact, there was potential for more,
had they been more open to spending a *fraction* of the profits at
promoting biz. Guess they didn't have to.

It sounds as if the programs and policies that "Skylune" are giving him
a dose of reality! He WANTS flying to cost us more, but now laments the
fact that it DOES cost more!

Advice to "Skylune": Don't spit in the well!

Advice taken, and filed (under delete). I've always said that if I return
to the sky, it should be on my own dime. Not the taxpaying public.

by "BDS" Nov 15, 2005 at 01:51 PM


"Skylune" wrote

On the training, I had settled on the Cessna (How the heck do you climb
in
and out of the Piper if you're over 6' tall??? ;-) ). Then I called
a
school someone had recommended (not at the local airport, which I
absolutely detest).

I'm sure the feeling is mutual!

above the basic requirements to get the ticket). I may have to just
content myself with sitting in the right seat of my buddy's Cessna and
working the GPS for him....

We're all impressed with your ability to play with a GPS. No need to
keep
bragging about it.

Bragging? Nothing to brag about. Its a fairly simple instrument to
operate. My ISP based buddy is just stuck on using the VOR and is having
trouble adapting to the new technology, despite its obvious superiority,
esp. with WAAS.

As far as the local airport: I HOPE they really, really, really detest
me!!! If some don't now, I hope they will when they hold the next public
"information" meeting. I am ready. I have a very thick file waiting.
They don't like to deal in facts. I like Will Rogers, who said, "Facts
are stubborn things."

My bad: Will Rogers was quoting John Adams who said: "Facts are stubborn
things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dicatates
of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

Boyer the Destroyer obviously does not subscribe to Adam's sentiments.....

No context is needed here. More absurd propaganda from a stunt pilot:

"In the aerobatic community, I have seen first hand how misunderstanding
and lack of communication can lead to real trouble for aerobatic pilots.
Without an understanding of aerobatics, it is easy to see how some people
could become annoyed on the ground below our practice area. What I hear as
a symphony of horsepower some folks hear as noise!"

What an arrogant jerk! "A symphony of horsepower." Lets see: I could say
that what a stunt pilot views as a fatal crash, I view as a great display
of fireworks!