Charging for instruction, no instructor rating

I think that he should read FAR 119.1 (tied to Part 135 operations). The way
I read it, he has to stay within 25 miles of the departure airport and not
land anywhere else. Within those restrictions, he seems to be OK. There
might be a drug testing question, too, but I'm fuzzy on that.

Bob Gardner

"Doug" wrote in message
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Guy has an airplane, commercial certificate but no instructor rating
and takes students up for acrobatic lessons, mountain checkouts and
charges for it. FAA legal?

"Bob Gardner" wrote in
:

I think that he should read FAR 119.1 (tied to Part 135 operations).
The way I read it, he has to stay within 25 miles of the departure
airport and not land anywhere else. Within those restrictions, he
seems to be OK. There might be a drug testing question, too, but I'm
fuzzy on that.

Bob Gardner

"Doug" wrote in message
ups.com...
Guy has an airplane, commercial certificate but no instructor rating
and takes students up for acrobatic lessons, mountain checkouts and
charges for it. FAA legal?


I think the bigger issue is with the plane. Does he needs to be renting the
plane or letting the customer bring his own to avoid "holding out" -
requiring a Part 135 certificate for the operation...

Lots of places offer airplane site-seeing rides that are not 135.
Nothing wrong with offering rides as long as everything is commercial.
You don't need 135 for that.

Robert Gary is exactly right. That's one of the lines between Part 91 and
135. A Part 91 pilot with a commercial certificate can give "rides" if s/he
stays within 25 miles of the departure airport and doesn't land anywhere
else. If s/he wants to take someone 26 miles away and land, an Air
Taxi/Commercial Operator certificate is required...with a ton of new
regulations that must be observed.

Bob Gardner

"Judah" wrote in message
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"Bob Gardner" wrote in
:

I think that he should read FAR 119.1 (tied to Part 135 operations).
The way I read it, he has to stay within 25 miles of the departure
airport and not land anywhere else. Within those restrictions, he
seems to be OK. There might be a drug testing question, too, but I'm
fuzzy on that.

Bob Gardner

"Doug" wrote in message
ups.com...
Guy has an airplane, commercial certificate but no instructor rating
and takes students up for acrobatic lessons, mountain checkouts and
charges for it. FAA legal?


I think the bigger issue is with the plane. Does he needs to be renting
the
plane or letting the customer bring his own to avoid "holding out" -
requiring a Part 135 certificate for the operation...

Doug wrote:
Guy has an airplane, commercial certificate but no instructor rating
and takes students up for acrobatic lessons, mountain checkouts and
charges for it. FAA legal?


As long as he isn't signing their log book and impersonating a
certificated instructor, I don't see why it would be illegal.

Matt