Go-around - my first sighting

But it might strain things.

Not unless it happens with an unusual frequency. Pride, more than
profit, will tend to minimize go-arounds.

It may have been a test flight, checking avionics,
auto-pilot, etc. The crew may also have been in training.
Maybe they just needed a few more minutes to complete some
flight time experience requirement and a go-around was
better than and would use less time than another flight
cycle.

It may have been because of something you didn't see, like
another airplane or vehicle on the runway and ATC may have
issued the go-around.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Ramapriya" wrote in message
oups.com...
|I was admiring an Emirates A330 on finals earlier today. It
appeared to
| be on the proper glide path (guaging from the earlier
string of
| aircraft). A mile out or so, for some reason, TOGA! and
the aircraft
| went into quite a nose-up attitude and climbed away,
aborting the
| landing.
|
| This go-around happened on a clear wintry morning with
little or no
| wind. Hope the Cap'n doesn't lose his job, unless there
was some other
| reason like runway incursion )
|
| Have you guys ever missed an approach and had to hit TOGA?
And does a
| go-around make its way as a pilot's log book entry?
|
| Ramapriya
|

Jim Macklin wrote:
It may have been a test flight, checking avionics,
auto-pilot, etc. The crew may also have been in training.
Maybe they just needed a few more minutes to complete some
flight time experience requirement and a go-around was
better than and would use less time than another flight
cycle.

I've heard of 737's 'in the pattern' at Castle AFB.
On that runway, they can probably do a couple of Touch
and goes on each pass.

gerald

A lot of operators do not allow touch and goes, due the
perceived risks. But they could do a stop and go.


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Jim Macklin
"GS" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| It may have been a test flight, checking avionics,
| auto-pilot, etc. The crew may also have been in
training.
| Maybe they just needed a few more minutes to complete
some
| flight time experience requirement and a go-around was
| better than and would use less time than another flight
| cycle.
|
| I've heard of 737's 'in the pattern' at Castle AFB.
| On that runway, they can probably do a couple of Touch
| and goes on each pass.
|
| gerald

Jim Macklin wrote:
A lot of operators do not allow touch and goes, due the
perceived risks. But they could do a stop and go.

I can't imagine a jet doing this even at castle. I've
heard these were non-commercial 737's (private or other)

Gerald

A big issue is brake heat, you do need to give the binders
time to cool and the air flow while the gear is down and
locked after take-off and on final helps a lot.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"GS" wrote in message
et...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| A lot of operators do not allow touch and goes, due the
| perceived risks. But they could do a stop and go.
|
| I can't imagine a jet doing this even at castle. I've
| heard these were non-commercial 737's (private or other)
|
| Gerald

Go to Grant County Airport in Washington you will see 747's doing touch &
goes that'a a trip to watch.



"GS" wrote in message
et...
Jim Macklin wrote:
A lot of operators do not allow touch and goes, due the
perceived risks. But they could do a stop and go.

I can't imagine a jet doing this even at castle. I've
heard these were non-commercial 737's (private or other)

Gerald

GS wrote:
Jim Macklin wrote:
A lot of operators do not allow touch and goes, due the perceived
risks. But they could do a stop and go.

I can't imagine a jet doing this even at castle. I've
heard these were non-commercial 737's (private or other)

AF-1 (well not AF-1, but one of the planes used for AF-1) comes
over to Dulles occasionally and shoots touch and goes.

His landing and/or approach clearance might have been canceled for
numerous reasons, say, another aircraft can't get off the runway, or
another aircraft reporting foreign object on the runway and the tower
is sending a vehicle to pick it up, etc, etc.

Things like this are not very common, but not rare either. No captain
will lose his job because of a go around.

Ramapriya wrote:
I was admiring an Emirates A330 on finals earlier today. It appeared to
be on the proper glide path (guaging from the earlier string of
aircraft). A mile out or so, for some reason, TOGA! and the aircraft
went into quite a nose-up attitude and climbed away, aborting the
landing.

This go-around happened on a clear wintry morning with little or no
wind. Hope the Cap'n doesn't lose his job, unless there was some other
reason like runway incursion )

Have you guys ever missed an approach and had to hit TOGA? And does a
go-around make its way as a pilot's log book entry?

Ramapriya

"Ramapriya" wrote in message
Have you guys ever missed an approach and had to hit TOGA? And does a
go-around make its way as a pilot's log book entry?

Go-arounds, otherwise called balked landings, are standard training
curriculum. Once or twice a year we may have to perform one. We fill out a
captain's report for the chief pilot, but that's so the safety department
can identify trends. The pilots are not disciplined. The last one I peformed
was at DCA with it's funky restrictions because a departing CRJ aborted
their take-off for engine malfunctions.

In the Airbus, if the pilots leave the power levers in cruise and do a 360
degree turn, the flight data recorder won't show it as a go-around. Less
paperwork that way.

D.