Any Embry Riddle Grads out there?

"Nathan Young" wrote

If those are really the numbers, it is my opinion that your son would
be better off going to the State college, paying a reasonable tuition,
getting a marketable degree, and conducting his flight lessons
independently of his degree work while he is there.

Add to that the fact that many colleges, even some community colleges have
flight degrees, or at least flight instructors and cheap flight rentals.
The instructors time is free, as part of the tuition.

It sounds to me like it would be hard to justify the cost of ER, in these
days and times.
--
Jim in NC

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:09:42 -0600, "Carl Orton"
wrote:


Thanks for any insight;
Carl



Well, as others have responded, I am in the same frame of mind. I
have known several ERU graduates and 100% of them have made the same
comment "If I had to do it all over again, I would not have gone to
ERU" . ERU is a good school. Don't get me wrong. I actually have a
friend that is now instructing there at ERU in FL and he is wishing he
would have done it differently. Another part time instructor in my
area is now flying very little and is actually driving a dump truck
for a company here in town. Most of the jobs are about how many hours
(total, and type) you have, and (some) care that you have "a" degree.
A degree from ERU means very little. IMHO, save your money and get
him a good business degree at an in state university and pay for his
flying at a local flight school.

On a side note, without knowing what his goal is, ie: Corp or
Commercial, it actually might help him to get his license locally if
the corporate side is where he wants to focus on and that is the town
he would like to live in. People on the field will get to know him
and how he flies and when a position opens up, they are more prone to
go to someone local. Also, when he reaches the goal of CFI, the
flight school that he attended to get that CFI would more than likely
utilize him as a CFI. It tends to be hard for a CFI to come into a new
town and find a job flight instructing.


Scott Dedeker

Rachel, I did not say age made one a great instructor, nor a bad one.
It seems that you began instructing at a young age, and likely
encountered some age bias that still smarts. I think every young
professional has similar experiences.

By "grey-haired" I meant to imply an instructor who was both
experienced and older than the student in question. As you will
recall, the OP was inquiring about his 17/18 year old son.

*For me*, finding an experienced and older instructor served *me*
better than the instructor closer to my own age. Obviously you had a
different experience.


Rachel wrote:
Sorry, I have to make my standard disagreement that age does not make a
great instructor. My instructors were all under 30 and all but one did
a great job. I was 22 when I got my CFI, and while I have a lot to
learn, no one ever complained. Older does NOT always mean better and
it's a disservice to suggest that it does.

wrote:
*For me*, finding an experienced and older instructor served *me*
better than the instructor closer to my own age. Obviously you had a
different experience.


I generally search out an ATP or multi-I if I can. Primary flying is one thing;
new instructors are fine for that. But at my advanced old age, I'd rather take
advice from someone with significant time.

I had an aircraft checkout earlier this year where a young whippersnapper was
offering me tips on how to survive a crash. We had two crashes between us.
However, both of them were mine. *I* know how to survive a crash (if it can be
done).



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

Scott D wrote:
On a side note, without knowing what his goal is, ie: Corp or
Commercial, it actually might help him to get his license locally if
the corporate side is where he wants to focus on and that is the town
he would like to live in. People on the field will get to know him
and how he flies and when a position opens up, they are more prone to
go to someone local. Also, when he reaches the goal of CFI, the
flight school that he attended to get that CFI would more than likely
utilize him as a CFI. It tends to be hard for a CFI to come into a new
town and find a job flight instructing.


I know guys who did exactly that and ended up with good corporate jobs. If you
hang around a field long enough, people get to know you and might think of you
when opportunities pop up. I have a good friend who was taken under the arm of
a retired USAF pilot who would take him along to sit right seat in a Cheyenne on
his business trips. He wasn't needed, but the seat was there and the colonel
was of a mind to bring somebody along. Then a left seat job for a local company
appeared and my friend was recommended for the spot, even though he was still
pretty young.

Now he's flying internationally in a Citation. Left seat.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"Carl Orton" wrote in message
Regardless of how much the Bank of Dad, scholarships, work, etc., kick in,
we're looking at financing a chunk o' change if he does end up going
there.
Thanks for any insight;

What is his goal?
If he wants to be an airline pilot, ER is the way to go. If he wants to be
an aeronautical engineer, there isn't much difference from a good state
university.

D.

If he's got the grades, he should try to get into the best engineering
school he can get into. He can take flying lessons on the side. After he
gets out, he's got lots of options. No airline is going to hold a solid
engineering degree against him.

The one thing most people don't realize, is that many of the best schools
(the Ivy league in particular) also have by far the most financial aid
resources. If you can get into one of these schools, money is not a problem
if you have the need. That's not always the case with a state school.

Mike Schumann

"Capt.Doug" wrote in message
...
"Carl Orton" wrote in message
Regardless of how much the Bank of Dad, scholarships, work, etc., kick
in,
we're looking at financing a chunk o' change if he does end up going
there.
Thanks for any insight;

What is his goal?
If he wants to be an airline pilot, ER is the way to go. If he wants to be
an aeronautical engineer, there isn't much difference from a good state
university.

D.

"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
ink.net...
If he's got the grades, he should try to get into the best engineering
school he can get into. He can take flying lessons on the side. After he
gets out, he's got lots of options. No airline is going to hold a solid
engineering degree against him.

SNIP

Purdue University pops to mind ... great engineering school and they have an
aviation degree program to boot.

Jay B

Jay Beckman wrote:
"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
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If he's got the grades, he should try to get into the best engineering
school he can get into. He can take flying lessons on the side. After he
gets out, he's got lots of options. No airline is going to hold a solid
engineering degree against him.


SNIP

Purdue University pops to mind ... great engineering school and they have an
aviation degree program to boot.

Jay B

Purdue doesn't get nearly the credit it deserves in this whole aviation
thing. In my not so humble opinion, of course. :-)

Only problem is the weather isn't as nearly as good as ERAU... :-)

"Rachel" wrote in message
. ..
Jay Beckman wrote:
"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
ink.net...

If he's got the grades, he should try to get into the best engineering
school he can get into. He can take flying lessons on the side. After
he gets out, he's got lots of options. No airline is going to hold a
solid engineering degree against him.


SNIP

Purdue University pops to mind ... great engineering school and they have
an aviation degree program to boot.

Jay B

Purdue doesn't get nearly the credit it deserves in this whole aviation
thing. In my not so humble opinion, of course. :-)

Only problem is the weather isn't as nearly as good as ERAU... :-)

At least not ERAU Prescott...

Jay B