Odd TFR

Peter: It's complicated, but that's part of the problem. The Flight
Restricted Zone (FRZ) around the White House and Capitol is generally
off limits to GA, whether VFR or IFR. There is sort of an exception
for folks who have been vetted by the TSA and had a background check
including fingerprints, allowing them to fly in or out of the three GA
airports at the edges of the FRZ if they file a flight plan on the
ground by phone with the Leesburg FSS, give a unique PIN, and squawk a
discrete code given to them. They can't just fly around in the FRZ,
though, only to/from the so-called DC-3 airports in the FRZ. I guess
the additional TFR grounds those flights.

Mark

Peter R. wrote:
blanche cohen wrote:

There's a TFR today over DC for the State of the Union address.
I don't understand why when there's been a massive one in
place for the past 4 years.

My understanding is that even GA aircraft on an IFR flight plan cannot fly
into this TFR, which is obviously different than the long standing
VFR-restrictive TFR in place the past five years or so.

--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message
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blanche cohen wrote:

There's a TFR today over DC for the State of the Union address.
I don't understand why when there's been a massive one in
place for the past 4 years.

My understanding is that even GA aircraft on an IFR flight plan cannot fly
into this TFR, which is obviously different than the long standing
VFR-restrictive TFR in place the past five years or so.

--
Peter

Yes, only airliners weighing hundreds of thousands of pounds are allowed to
fly within a couple miles of the capitol.

On 01 Feb 2006 01:09:34 GMT, (blanche cohen) wrote:

There's a TFR today over DC for the State of the Union address.
I don't understand why when there's been a massive one in
place for the past 4 years.

Actually, I think the TFR says a bit about the State of the Union...

"Michael 182" wrote in
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On 01 Feb 2006 01:09:34 GMT, (blanche cohen) wrote:

There's a TFR today over DC for the State of the Union address.
I don't understand why when there's been a massive one in
place for the past 4 years.

Actually, I think the TFR says a bit about the State of the Union...

Amen...

Jay B

Actually, I think the TFR says a bit about the State of the Union...

Word.

"Michael 182" wrote in message
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Actually, I think the TFR says a bit about the State of the Union...

Yeah, but they are so afraid of getting bad PR, they didn't follow my
suggestion and just nuke the camel ****in' Bedoins to start with...

blanche cohen wrote:
There's a TFR today over DC for the State of the Union address.
I don't understand why when there's been a massive one in
place for the past 4 years.
While I don't agree in the need for the ADIZ, I think in this case it's
more justified then normal. The entire leadership of our country ( Both
sides )is in one building for the sotu and it's a good idea to ratchet
up security for that event. It's only 4 hours and if it were not for
the ADIZ I don't think anyone would complain about it. While the risk
of a light plane actually doing any damage is small, let's face it, you
could load 500 pounds or so of high explosive into a 172 and that would
make a fairly big hole in the capital building. I think that preventing
that kind of attack should start way before the plane gets in the air,
but for a short amount of time closing the airspace does make sense.
The security on commercial aircraft now makes the possibility of another
911 attack remote but that level of screening and airmarshalls just does
not exist for GA. Let's not over react to reasonable measures just
because they are over shadowed by un reasonable ones.

While I don't agree in the need for the ADIZ, I think in this case it's
more justified then normal. The entire leadership of our country ( Both
sides )is in one building for the sotu and it's a good idea to ratchet
up security for that event.

Which doesn't mean anything since we would elect new ones within 30 days.
There is no reason for everyone to gather except for a media event
(marketing by the political parties).
The constitution says something about the president going before
congress, by that can be done electronically, the same as he/she does
when going before the American public.
The State of the Union would possibly be shorter because there would be
no delays for choreographed applause.

john smith wrote:
While I don't agree in the need for the ADIZ, I think in this case it's
more justified then normal. The entire leadership of our country ( Both
sides )is in one building for the sotu and it's a good idea to ratchet
up security for that event.


Which doesn't mean anything since we would elect new ones within 30 days.
There is no reason for everyone to gather except for a media event
(marketing by the political parties).
The constitution says something about the president going before
congress, by that can be done electronically, the same as he/she does
when going before the American public.
The State of the Union would possibly be shorter because there would be
no delays for choreographed applause.
and given the worst case scenario of all the likely candidates dying in
one attack, just where will you find the new leaders?

"John Theune" wrote in message
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john smith wrote:
While I don't agree in the need for the ADIZ, I think in this case it's
more justified then normal. The entire leadership of our country ( Both
sides )is in one building for the sotu and it's a good idea to ratchet up
security for that event.


Which doesn't mean anything since we would elect new ones within 30 days.
There is no reason for everyone to gather except for a media event
(marketing by the political parties).
The constitution says something about the president going before
congress, by that can be done electronically, the same as he/she does
when going before the American public.
The State of the Union would possibly be shorter because there would be
no delays for choreographed applause.
and given the worst case scenario of all the likely candidates dying in
one attack, just where will you find the new leaders?

Just about anywhere and everywhere. Wannabe politicians are as rare as
dirt. We have at least 7 hats in the ring for governor.