Going around what to do?

Matt Whiting wrote:
Kyle Boatright wrote:

"Nik" wrote in message
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Ok thank you...
How would you say the intentions though?
-Nik



"Your Location Traffic, NXYZ is going around due to departing traffic
on Runway **, will fly an upwind on the Right side of Runway **."


I'd probably say I was going around due to a fool on the runway, but
otherwise I concur with what you suggest. :-)

I normally unkey the mic and THEN say what I really want... :-)

In article . com,
"Nik" wrote:

What would you do in the following situtation:

You are approaching a non towered field, communicate right and all that
stuff, your on final, suddenly a cessna pulls up and starts it's take
off roll.

Also lets bring the same situation to a towered airport where the
controller tells you to go around while you are on final.
I am asking this because I am just wondering that at some point the
aircraft could collide (one climbing out, the other at pattern
altitude), and what the pilot going around should do...

Power up, pitch up, flaps up.
If you are in a retract, leave the gear down, your Vx and Vy speeds will
be lower and you won't have to worry about forgetting in on the next
circuit.
Fly to the right of the departing aircraft.
Allow the departing aircraft to accelerate ahead of you.
Turn left, enter the pattern and land normally.
Why follow the departing aircraft?
You are ready to land.

Rachel wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:

Kyle Boatright wrote:

"Nik" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ok thank you...
How would you say the intentions though?
-Nik




"Your Location Traffic, NXYZ is going around due to departing traffic
on Runway **, will fly an upwind on the Right side of Runway **."


I'd probably say I was going around due to a fool on the runway, but
otherwise I concur with what you suggest. :-)


I normally unkey the mic and THEN say what I really want... :-)

Why unkey the mic?


Matt

Nik wrote:

What would you do in the following situtation:

You are approaching a non towered field, communicate right and all that
stuff, your on final, suddenly a cessna pulls up and starts it's take
off roll.

You go around. I make a standard procedure of keeping to the right of the
runway during all go-arounds, sometimes informally called a "sidestep." At
a towered field you may be asked to go around and not told why. Keeping
right lets you keep the runway in view out your left window and gets you
out of the way of any other aircraft that may be landing/taking off until
you can maintain visual contact to avoid them.

You don't have to go far to the right, just enough to allow you to see the
runway and be out of the way for any fast climbers.

It's normal to stay to the RIGHT of the runway. This is especially useful
when you find yourself on a nice final approach and then notice that some
clown decided to land downwind on the opposing runway. Both aircraft can
go around and be out of each other's way and be safe.

Obviously if there are parallel runways in use or other special
circumstances (obstacles) the procedure may differ.

Practice go-arounds often at different phases of landing. Know what your
airplane requires (flaps set x degrees? Carb heat off? Mixture is already
rich? Prop is already forward? Gear up? Full power? Spoilers
retracted?) by heart.

Kyle Boatright wrote:

"Nik" wrote in message
Ok thank you...
How would you say the intentions though?
-Nik

"Your Location Traffic, NXYZ is going around due to departing traffic on
Runway **, will fly an upwind on the Right side of Runway **."

I'd bet that you'd want less words and sooner!

Something on the order of...

"location, NXYZ, going around, right of XXX" (this assumes that
runway XXX is not on the left side of a parallel runway...)

Get out of the way. If at a towered airport, and they tell you
to go around, don't bother with all the details, just agree,
something like

"NXYZ going around"

because they'll probably tell you which side to offset, or even more
detailed instructions, such as

"go around IMMEDIATELY, turn (left or right) as soon as possible,
wait for further instructions"

yes, I've had this happen to me when an aircraft broke down on the
runway. They sent us all out to the SE or SW with instructions to
go away for a while.

Matt Whiting wrote:
Rachel wrote:

Matt Whiting wrote:

Kyle Boatright wrote:

"Nik" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ok thank you...
How would you say the intentions though?
-Nik





"Your Location Traffic, NXYZ is going around due to departing
traffic on Runway **, will fly an upwind on the Right side of Runway
**."


I'd probably say I was going around due to a fool on the runway, but
otherwise I concur with what you suggest. :-)



I normally unkey the mic and THEN say what I really want... :-)


Why unkey the mic?


Matt
Controllers tend to get angry when you swear on the radio.

"Nik" wrote in message
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What would you do in the following situtation:

You are approaching a non towered field, communicate right and all that
stuff, your on final, suddenly a cessna pulls up and starts it's take
off roll.


I'd either land or go around, it depends on how much room I'll have behind
the Cessna.



Also lets bring the same situation to a towered airport where the
controller tells you to go around while you are on final.


If I'm VFR or on a visual approach I'll overfly the runway while climbing to
traffic pattern altitude and enter the traffic pattern via the crosswind
leg, unless given other instructions by the controller. If I'm on an
instrument approach I'll execute the published missed approach procedure or
proceed as instructed by the controller.



I am asking this because I am just wondering that at some point the
aircraft could collide (one climbing out, the other at pattern
altitude), and what the pilot going around should do...


I'd avoid colliding.

"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
. ..

In both cases, announce your intentions, offset your approach and fly an
upwind leg (typically to the right of the runway centerline). You should
adjust your upwind leg to keep the rogue aircraft/pilot in view until it
is no longer a collision threat.


At a controlled field, unless told otherwise, you should overfly the runway
while climbing to traffic pattern altitude.

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...

I'd probably say I was going around due to a fool on the runway, but
otherwise I concur with what you suggest. :-)


What did you see in the OP that suggested the departing pilot was a fool?

Nik wrote:
What would you do in the following situtation:

You are approaching a non towered field, communicate right and all that
stuff, your on final, suddenly a cessna pulls up and starts it's take
off roll.

Depends on other factors, especially WHERE on final I am.

Other than that, most of these types of questions are pointless. G