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In message , Shawn
writes Derek Copeland wrote: I've had a look at Grob's web site. The b at the end of the word is just an ordinary b and there is no umlaut on the o. Therefore you should pronounce Grob almost exactly as you would in English, with a short 'o' sound. It is not Grobe or Gross! The old Grob Twin Astir acquired the nickname of 'The Concrete Swan' in the UK. Derek Copeland That was it! Concrete or lead, I've had many great flights in the 102 and 103. The CS on the 102 definitely stood for Concrete Swan Robin A very happy Astir owner, well ex now but I loved her whilst I had her. Shawn Is it 'Grow'b? Is it 'graw'b? I've heard it pronounced 'led swan' ;-) -- Robin Birch |
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BTW in russian grob(гроб) means coffin. Awful name for a glider.
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Shawn wrote:
Derek Copeland wrote: I've had a look at Grob's web site. The b at the end of the word is just an ordinary b and there is no umlaut on the o. Therefore you should pronounce Grob almost exactly as you would in English, with a short 'o' sound. It is not Grobe or Gross! The old Grob Twin Astir acquired the nickname of 'The Concrete Swan' in the UK. Derek Copeland That was it! Concrete or lead, I've had many great flights in the 102 and 103. Shawn Is it 'Grow'b? Is it 'graw'b? I've heard it pronounced 'led swan' ;-) Generally pronounced to rhyme with "rob" around here. Maybe the earlier models are slow in roll and the tail is "heavy". But I really like the G103 Twin Astir, feels a little like a Mercedes Benz. All that momentum makes it a lot more comfortable than something like a K13 in strong conditions. In weak conditions it does emulate a well thrown brick... Maybe I just don't know better, but I like 'em. -- Bruce Greeff Std Cirrus #57 I'm no-T at the address above. |
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writes I've heard it pronounced 'led swan' ;-) Generally pronounced to rhyme with "rob" around here. Yup, that's right. I used to know a guy who worked at Mattsis and that was how he pronounced it. Maybe the earlier models are slow in roll and the tail is "heavy". But I really like the G103 Twin Astir, feels a little like a Mercedes Benz. All that momentum makes it a lot more comfortable than something like a K13 in strong conditions. In weak conditions it does emulate a well thrown brick... Maybe I just don't know better, but I like 'em. Everybody I know who has flown one for a while says exactly the same, a brick but I really enjoyed flying it :-) Robin -- Robin Birch |
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![]() That was it! Concrete or lead, I've had many great flights in the 102 and 103. A nearby club (in the US, 190km is nearby :-) ) calls their 103 the Plastic Pig. The only glider I've flown where on a calm day i stomped on the rudder while on tow and wished I had more. Kinda reminds me of the Shorts driver who hit a microburst on final and pushed the engines to 110% rated power, mandating an expensive overhaul of the hot sections. When asked why he applied so much power, he replied "because the throttles wouldn't move any further" :-). Tony V. |
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So would you rather have a Grob or a 2-33? Might as well stir up that
hornet nest since none of the PW 5 insults generated a response. Chip F |
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chipsoars wrote:
So would you rather have a Grob or a 2-33? Might as well stir up that hornet nest since none of the PW 5 insults generated a response. LOL. Grob, please! Tony |
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"chipsoars" wrote: So would you rather have a Grob or a 2-33? Might as well stir up that hornet nest since none of the PW 5 insults generated a response. Gosh that's easy. A Grob. The Twin Astir and descendents are great for learning to fly in, right up to handicapped contest flying (especially in wave or on the ridge). The PW5 is better on the weak thermal days we always seem to get in contests areound here though. -- Bruce | 41.1670S | \ spoken | -+- Hoult | 174.8263E | /\ here. | ----------O---------- |
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I have always heard it as Grob rhyming with rob.
The Twins are always in their element when it is really stoking. Reminds me of the time Ron Newell and I where watching some finishes at an inter-services once and I asked him about the Astir CS compared to the STD Cirrus, that he had a share in with my Dad, anyone remember "Cirrus 10"? Anyway he told me to listen to an Astir and how loud it was crossing the line, he then said, "it takes a lot of wasted energy to make that much noise". I flew Bicester's Astir CS, remember "316", I could get it to climb pretty well, did out climb my Dad who was it an ASW-20, remember "27", then he ran off and left me in a glide over to Little Rissy. Those were the days!! wrote in message oups.com... I hear most people pronounce Grob with a B on the end. But I dont think it is actually a B but rather an esset which is a letter in german that looks like a B but is pronounced as a hard S. So Grob should really be pronouced Gross. |
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I have asked a German!
Interesting. In the US, pretty much everybody I know pronounces it Grow'b (long O). is the correct way to say Grob!!! At 12:36 09 February 2006, wrote: Interesting. In the US, pretty much everybody I know pronounces it Grow'b (long O). I guess that's the non-metric pronounciation! More useless trivia: My glider is an LS6-b according to the flight manual. Yet everytime I see an LS in print in the US it's called an LS-6B, LS-4A, etc. Maybe because that's how we name our military planes (EA-6B, for example)? And if a Grob 103 is a Concrete Swan - then a Schweizer 2-32 is an Aluminum Overcast! Love that beast too... This is bad - I need a thermal fix soon! Cheers, Kirk 66 |
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