OT - At last, a Windows Explorer work-around for .jpg folders

them. Not once has windows or just windows explorer crashed. I've never
even heard of the problem.

Count your blessings. It's been a scourge of mine for several years.

For a while this same type of thing (instant shut-down, no "blue screen of
death" or any warning at all) would happen with Frontpage, too, but
Microsoft seems to have licked that in one of their recent upgrades.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I have a similar problem to the one Jay had, but I don't use Photoshop. If
I try and scroll down one particular (large) folder of pictures, and if I
have the view by "Thumbnails" option on, likely as not the entire folder
will suddenly disappear from the screen. I can reopen it, but now it's even
more likely that the same thing will happen. If I have view by "List" or
"Details" on instead, it seems to always work. Very frustrating, because
who can remember what "P2349737.jpg" was?

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


"Newps" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Like many of you, I keep a LOT of pictures on my hard drive. Also,
like many of you, I use Adobe Photoshop to crop and enhance my photos.

I have had an infuriating problem with Windows Explorer (in Win XP,
both Home and Professional) crashing instantly and utterly when trying
to open a folder with many .jpg picture files in it. It wouldn't do it
all the time, but when it did, it was always fatal -- there was no
warning, and no work-around.


What's a lot of pictures? I have 5 folders, labeled by year for the last
5 years. Each folder has several hundred pictures. 90+ percent of the
pictures have been fixed or cropped and every one of them has had their
name changed. Every one of them is a jpg. I use 3 different programs for
working with these pictures, but Photoshop is not one of them. Not once
has windows or just windows explorer crashed. I've never even heard of
the problem.

I have a similar problem to the one Jay had, but I don't use Photoshop. If
I try and scroll down one particular (large) folder of pictures, and if I
have the view by "Thumbnails" option on, likely as not the entire folder
will suddenly disappear from the screen.

That's the problem precisely, Bob. Does Windows Explorer shut down
completely when this happens?

The work-around may be the same. You might try shorter folder (not file)
names?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message newsmlUf.44562$oL.15608@attbi_s71...
I have a similar problem to the one Jay had, but I don't use Photoshop. If I try and scroll down one particular
(large) folder of pictures, and if I have the view by "Thumbnails" option on, likely as not the entire folder will
suddenly disappear from the screen.

That's the problem precisely, Bob. Does Windows Explorer shut down completely when this happens?

The work-around may be the same. You might try shorter folder (not file) names?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



Wow, I have a folder with 5653 files in 9 folders buries down under this path: "D:\My Documents - Shared\My
Pictures\planes". I do not recall any crashes or hung machines ever. I do have photoshop SE and I do use the thumbnail
view quite often. Am I lucky?

Wow, I have a folder with 5653 files in 9 folders buries down under this
path: "D:\My Documents - Shared\My Pictures\planes". I do not recall any
crashes or hung machines ever. I do have photoshop SE and I do use the
thumbnail view quite often. Am I lucky?

Dunno. It apparently doesn't happen on all computers with Photoshop and XP.
And perhaps Photoshop SE doesn't cause the same problem?

Since neither Adobe nor Microsoft has come out with a real "fix", I suspect
it's one of those "phantom glitches" that affects only machines with some
bizarre combination of factors? Who knows -- maybe you've got to have
Windows XP, plus Photoshop as your default viewer, plus Itunes installed?

It really could be something *that* goofy.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On 2006-03-21, Jay Honeck wrote:
Like many of you, I keep a LOT of pictures on my hard drive. Also,
like many of you, I use Adobe Photoshop to crop and enhance my photos.

It is for exactly reasons like this I love Apple iPhoto so much.

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Dylan Smith, Port St Mary, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute: http://oolite-linux.berlios.de
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net

"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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It is for exactly reasons like this I love Apple iPhoto so much.

Anyone who thinks that Apple iPhoto (or any other particular software
application) is immune to this kind of problem is an idiot.

All software has bugs. The main question is whether you use the software in
a way that causes you to see them.

On 2006-03-22, Peter Duniho wrote:
"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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It is for exactly reasons like this I love Apple iPhoto so much.

Anyone who thinks that Apple iPhoto (or any other particular software
application) is immune to this kind of problem is an idiot.

Apple iPhoto doesn't have that bug though. The thing is Apple iPhoto is
_vastly_ simpler than a combination of Windows Explorer + PhotoShop.
PhotoShop is a complex large piece of software, and so is Windows
Explorer. Apple iPhoto is likely much less complex than Windows
Explorer.

That's why I prefer Apple iPhoto for this kind of thing - it is designed
to do one thing - catalog, classify and allow some basic enhancement of
photographs and absolutely nothing else. It does this job very well.
There is a LOT to be said for not making things any more complex than
they need be.

Added to this, iPhoto seems to be well designed, certainly from a user
interface point of view.

All software has bugs. The main question is whether you use the software in
a way that causes you to see them.

More complex software (particularly combinations of two pieces of
complex software) are much more likely to have a lot more bugs though.
iPhoto may have bugs, but because of the vastly lower level of
complexity (I bet iPhoto is at least two orders of magnitude simpler
than the combination of Windows Explorer and PhotoShop), I'm much less
likely to run into problems with it than Jay with a combination of
Explorer and PhotoShop.

iPhoto is a lot cheaper than PhotoShop, too. Even if I include the cost
differential between an Apple PowerBook and the equivalent sized and
featured laptop PC. Oh wait - a similarly specified laptop PC is
actually more expensive :-)

--
Dylan Smith, Port St Mary, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute: http://oolite-linux.berlios.de
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net

"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2006-03-22, Peter Duniho wrote:
"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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It is for exactly reasons like this I love Apple iPhoto so much.

Anyone who thinks that Apple iPhoto (or any other particular software
application) is immune to this kind of problem is an idiot.

Apple iPhoto doesn't have that bug though. The thing is Apple iPhoto is
_vastly_ simpler than a combination of Windows Explorer + PhotoShop.
PhotoShop is a complex large piece of software, and so is Windows
Explorer. Apple iPhoto is likely much less complex than Windows
Explorer.


Photoshop doesn't have that problem either. At least not with everyone that
uses it. True Photoshop is a complex beast but it has features that iPhoto
doesn't, lot's of them. I personally think it is over kill for what Jay is
using it for.

There are several reasons that Jay could be having this problem and several
of them have not a thing to do with either Windows or Photoshop. I was an
Apple guy from my first Apple IIe and worked with several Macs until about 7
years ago when both work and the games I wanted to play knocked me out of
the Mac arena. Apple makes a great machine and for certain uses it has no
peer. But don't let anyone fool you it is not perfect and has bugs and
glitches all it own.

At home I'm running an Alienware 3.5 Ghz machine with WinXP and I have
restarted it exactly 4 times (other than after new software loads) in the
last 12 months. So stability is not an issue and it is MANY times faster
than anything Apple makes today and it was a year old last December.

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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:

At home I'm running an Alienware 3.5 Ghz machine with WinXP and I have
restarted it exactly 4 times (other than after new software loads) in the
last 12 months. So stability is not an issue and it is MANY times faster
than anything Apple makes today and it was a year old last December.

"many times faster"? are you nuts?

How long does it take this wicked fast machine to process/encode
one hour of video for burning on a DVD? For your claim of "many
times faster", it would have to complete the job in less than 10 minutes.
This I would love to see.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate