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Old April 5th 06, 11:27 PM posted to or.politics,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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I'm bettin' it's Boeing's JSF entry...

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Old April 6th 06, 05:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Another shot:

http://local.live.com/?v=2&sp=aN.34...._Boeing%20JSF_


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I'm bettin' it's Boeing's JSF entry...





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Old April 6th 06, 12:55 AM posted to or.politics,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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"gatt" wrote in news:_0VYf.4983$kg.4416
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34d 37'08" 118 05'03 What the hell is that?


Around the time I this photo was probably taken I was at the Blackbird Park
(you'll see 2 SR-71s and a U2) and they wouldn't let us near the airport

Snipola

Speaking of U2's....twice in the past weeks when I've been out on my
balcony in north Orange County CA, watching the planes go by high up
and making vapor trails, I've seen white U2. I wonder if it's the same
one.

I've been toying around with my telescope and digital camera to get
pics of aircraft at altitude. Unfortunately, the attemps at the U2 have
not been in the best of focus.

Brian
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Old April 6th 06, 02:00 PM posted to or.politics,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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There are two more Blackbirds (pause for reverence) parked at the north end
of the Edwards tarmac in the NASA section. One of those birds is now at
McMinnville under the right wing of the Spruce Goose.


Speaking of Blackbirds, did you know that two of them are unaccounted
for? The Roadrunners (a fraternity of former Blackbird pilots,
crewmembers, workers, etc.) have done an excellent job of listing where
each SR-71 ever built has ended up -- and come up two short.

Rumor has it that they're still flying...but no one knows, for sure.
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Old April 6th 06, 08:33 PM posted to or.politics,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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In article .com,
on 6 Apr 2006 06:00:44 -0700,
Jay Honeck attempted to say .....


Rumor has it that they're still flying...but no one knows, for sure.


Shhhh...

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Old April 6th 06, 09:17 PM posted to or.politics,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Jay Honeck wrote:
There are two more Blackbirds (pause for reverence) parked at the north end
of the Edwards tarmac in the NASA section. One of those birds is now at
McMinnville under the right wing of the Spruce Goose.


Speaking of Blackbirds, did you know that two of them are unaccounted
for? The Roadrunners (a fraternity of former Blackbird pilots,
crewmembers, workers, etc.) have done an excellent job of listing where
each SR-71 ever built has ended up -- and come up two short.

Rumor has it that they're still flying...but no one knows, for sure.


Given that we have no equivalent replacement I would expect them to be
used.

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Old April 6th 06, 10:05 PM posted to or.politics,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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UffDa! wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:


There are two more Blackbirds (pause for reverence) parked at the north end
of the Edwards tarmac in the NASA section. One of those birds is now at
McMinnville under the right wing of the Spruce Goose.


Speaking of Blackbirds, did you know that two of them are unaccounted
for? The Roadrunners (a fraternity of former Blackbird pilots,
crewmembers, workers, etc.) have done an excellent job of listing where
each SR-71 ever built has ended up -- and come up two short.


Rumor has it that they're still flying...but no one knows, for sure.


Given that we have no equivalent replacement I would expect them to be
used.


Of course there's an equivalent replacement - they're orbiting several
hundreds of kilometers up and go by names like KH-12, Improved Chrystal,
Indigo, LaCrosse, Vega, and likely a half a dozen other names still
classified.

The SR-71 was retired because there's no need for its capabilities any
longer. Everything the SR-71 could do can now be done cheaper and better
(and more safely) by satellites.

Peace and justice,



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Old April 6th 06, 10:31 PM posted to or.politics,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Bill Shatzer wrote:
UffDa! wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:


There are two more Blackbirds (pause for reverence) parked at the north end
of the Edwards tarmac in the NASA section. One of those birds is now at
McMinnville under the right wing of the Spruce Goose.


Speaking of Blackbirds, did you know that two of them are unaccounted
for? The Roadrunners (a fraternity of former Blackbird pilots,
crewmembers, workers, etc.) have done an excellent job of listing where
each SR-71 ever built has ended up -- and come up two short.


Rumor has it that they're still flying...but no one knows, for sure.


Given that we have no equivalent replacement I would expect them to be
used.


Of course there's an equivalent replacement - they're orbiting several
hundreds of kilometers up and go by names like KH-12, Improved Chrystal,
Indigo, LaCrosse, Vega, and likely a half a dozen other names still
classified.


Similiar, not equivalent.

The SR-71 was retired because there's no need for its capabilities any
longer. Everything the SR-71 could do can now be done cheaper and better
(and more safely) by satellites.


The Predator does provide another similar function currently. It
covers most of the gaps left by satellites.

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Old April 7th 06, 01:59 AM posted to or.politics,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Bill Shatzer wrote:

UffDa! wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:



There are two more Blackbirds (pause for reverence) parked at the
north end
of the Edwards tarmac in the NASA section. One of those birds is
now at
McMinnville under the right wing of the Spruce Goose.



Speaking of Blackbirds, did you know that two of them are unaccounted
for? The Roadrunners (a fraternity of former Blackbird pilots,
crewmembers, workers, etc.) have done an excellent job of listing where
each SR-71 ever built has ended up -- and come up two short.



Rumor has it that they're still flying...but no one knows, for sure.



Given that we have no equivalent replacement I would expect them to be
used.



Of course there's an equivalent replacement - they're orbiting several
hundreds of kilometers up and go by names like KH-12, Improved Chrystal,
Indigo, LaCrosse, Vega, and likely a half a dozen other names still
classified.

The SR-71 was retired because there's no need for its capabilities any
longer. Everything the SR-71 could do can now be done cheaper and better
(and more safely) by satellites.

Peace and justice,


Balderdash.
It was retired on pure economic reasons.

The satellites may give good picture, but what you want is a picture
while the other guy has his pants down.

A satellite is as predictable in its path as the stars in the heavens.

Satellites generally don't carry enough fuel for the huge delta-V's
required to work the bird on an irregular schedule.

That's the one thing the Blackbirds could do that nothing else could.

Suddenly.
Arrive.
And then be long gone...

Smile, you're on candid camera!
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Old April 7th 06, 05:53 AM posted to or.politics,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Richard Lamb wrote:

Bill Shatzer wrote:


-snip-

Given that we have no equivalent replacement I would expect them to be
used.


Of course there's an equivalent replacement - they're orbiting several
hundreds of kilometers up and go by names like KH-12, Improved
Chrystal, Indigo, LaCrosse, Vega, and likely a half a dozen other
names still classified.


The SR-71 was retired because there's no need for its capabilities any
longer. Everything the SR-71 could do can now be done cheaper and
better (and more safely) by satellites.


Balderdash.
It was retired on pure economic reasons.


Like I mentioned - "can now be done cheaper".

The satellites may give good picture, but what you want is a picture
while the other guy has his pants down.


We ain't gonna be flying spy missions over the Soviet Union. For one
thing, the Soviet Union no longer exists.

For the rest of the world, the U-2Rs and U-2Ss and the Global Hawk UAVs
are perfectly adequate to catch folks with their pants down at much less
cost and considerably less risk.

And they're gonna be phasing the U-2s out starting this year.
As soon as adequate numbers of the UAVs and RPVs are in service, the
U-2s will not needed any more either.

A satellite is as predictable in its path as the stars in the heavens.


Satellites generally don't carry enough fuel for the huge delta-V's
required to work the bird on an irregular schedule.


That's the one thing the Blackbirds could do that nothing else could.


Mach 3 and 80,000 feet is no longer required. The satellites and
UAVs/RPVs are more than adequate.

Peace and justice,

 




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