AOPA has totally lost it

by "Gary Drescher" Apr 24, 2006 at 05:49 PM



Skylune's way: don't settle for trenchant irony if you can issue a
petulant
taunt instead.




I haven't met "trenchant" yet: made me break out the good old American
College Dictionary. Thanks.

(I think I can do the trenchant ironry and taunt. Petulant? If you are
using that to mean contemptuous, I would have to agree. I do have
contempt for Boyer and his irrational, un-American methods, and his
contempt for everyone who doesn't fly.)

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
I haven't met "trenchant" yet: made me break out the good old American
College Dictionary. Thanks.

You're welcome. By the way, there's a good online dictionary at www.m-w.com;
or you can just google "definition of x".

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote:

"Skylune" wrote in message
alkaboutaviation.com...
I haven't met "trenchant" yet: made me break out the good old American
College Dictionary. Thanks.

You're welcome. By the way, there's a good online dictionary at www.m-w.com;
or you can just google "definition of x".

--Gary

Or, if using firefox, type "dict:x" in the address
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
Duh. Of course we oppose this study. If the public finds out that we
still use leaded fuel, with 2 grams of lead per gallon, which is 4
times the amount that used to be in car fuel, then we are in big trouble.
Especially in CA.

Well, look at the bright side. If all the tree-huggers really DO get
worked up about all that lead, MAYBE they'll let you burn ethanol-free
unleaded mogas again in Kalifornia?

I would discourage you from sounding like a professional talk radio zealout
ranting against "the treehuggers" or what they might do if they find out.

I'm a "treehugger." I once flew a C-152 with a photographer over an illegal
clearcut of an old-growth forest along the Oregon coast that was subsidized
by unknowing taxpayers but shut down as soon as the government found out (of
course, 75% had already been cut thanks to friends in Bill F'ckhead
Clinton's Forest Service)

The photos provided evidence of a crime against the public trust. When they
were on the web, by the way, I was getting hits from federally-leased IP
ranges daily. Big brother was watching.

Without getting too political, there's a tendency for people to think that
environmentalists are out to sink GA even though as a pilot/eco-geek I can
stand toe-to-toe with an educated environmentalist and make plenty of good
arguments for aviation and its fuel requirements.

Near as I can tell, the real enemies of General Aviation are

1) Draconian FAA regulations, which I don't feel I need to explain in this
forum

2) Land developers; (longtime enemies of the treehugger) lobbying to close
down airports because the land is worth more money or because their new
residents won't like the noise.

3) The oil industry; windfall profits off of Katrina, taxpayers are
rebuilding the region that supplies 30% to half of our domestic crude
oil....$750,000,000 in taxpayers dollars to patch up the levees alone, which
represents less than one tenth of Exxon's profits in the last quarter.
They want tax breaks. THEY BUILT THE CANALS that introduced salt water to
the barrier marshland along the Mississippi Delta that helped the storm
surges that wiped out places like Chalmette. By the way, 20% of the
population of New Orleans works in the energy industries.)

4) Social ignorance, largely due to media/public infatuation every time a
plane gets bent, whether somebody is hurt or not.

Feel free to challenge any point. I'd love to test my ideas here.
-c

("gatt" wrote)
Feel free to challenge any point. I'd love to test my ideas here.


#1. Legal system.


Montblack

You're not a treehugger. Not even close.




gatt wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...

Duh. Of course we oppose this study. If the public finds out that we
still use leaded fuel, with 2 grams of lead per gallon, which is 4
times the amount that used to be in car fuel, then we are in big trouble.
Especially in CA.

Well, look at the bright side. If all the tree-huggers really DO get
worked up about all that lead, MAYBE they'll let you burn ethanol-free
unleaded mogas again in Kalifornia?


I would discourage you from sounding like a professional talk radio zealout
ranting against "the treehuggers" or what they might do if they find out.

I'm a "treehugger." I once flew a C-152 with a photographer over an illegal
clearcut of an old-growth forest along the Oregon coast that was subsidized
by unknowing taxpayers but shut down as soon as the government found out (of
course, 75% had already been cut thanks to friends in Bill F'ckhead
Clinton's Forest Service)

The photos provided evidence of a crime against the public trust. When they
were on the web, by the way, I was getting hits from federally-leased IP
ranges daily. Big brother was watching.

Without getting too political, there's a tendency for people to think that
environmentalists are out to sink GA even though as a pilot/eco-geek I can
stand toe-to-toe with an educated environmentalist and make plenty of good
arguments for aviation and its fuel requirements.

Near as I can tell, the real enemies of General Aviation are

1) Draconian FAA regulations, which I don't feel I need to explain in this
forum

2) Land developers; (longtime enemies of the treehugger) lobbying to close
down airports because the land is worth more money or because their new
residents won't like the noise.

3) The oil industry; windfall profits off of Katrina, taxpayers are
rebuilding the region that supplies 30% to half of our domestic crude
oil....$750,000,000 in taxpayers dollars to patch up the levees alone, which
represents less than one tenth of Exxon's profits in the last quarter.
They want tax breaks. THEY BUILT THE CANALS that introduced salt water to
the barrier marshland along the Mississippi Delta that helped the storm
surges that wiped out places like Chalmette. By the way, 20% of the
population of New Orleans works in the energy industries.)

4) Social ignorance, largely due to media/public infatuation every time a
plane gets bent, whether somebody is hurt or not.

Feel free to challenge any point. I'd love to test my ideas here.
-c

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("gatt" wrote)
Feel free to challenge any point. I'd love to test my ideas here.


#1. Legal system.

What does that mean?

No, but I've been there and done that and in the process, talked to many of
the various northwestern treehugger species, from the ex-Earth First! types,
politicians and the garden-variety "Drivin' daddy's Beamer to the protest on
the way to he Phish concert" types too. Lotta useless, clueless college-age
parasites but also some -really- interesting minds. I wouldn't say I came
out of the experience with a profound new respect for hippies. :

I can't speak for the rest of the country, but out here the activist leaders
who organize everything are smart enough to know the importance of general
aviation. The shrieking retro-hippie ninnies don't, necessarily, but they
don't actually accomplish anything anyhow for the most part.

The rednecks who fired shotguns over our heads and dumped roofing nails all
over the road when the OSU Forestry Department and Time Magazine were coming
up to a timber arson auction site sure thought I was a treehugger. I
pulled at least two dozen nails from each of my tires. When we reported it
to the state police, he said "It must have been those ecoterrorists but
there's nothing I can do. The USFS has authority and told us we can't go up
there." -c

"Newps" wrote in message
...

You're not a treehugger. Not even close.

I'm a "treehugger." I once flew a C-152 with a photographer over an
illegal clearcut of an old-growth forest along the Oregon coast that was
subsidized by unknowing taxpayers but shut down as soon as the government
found out (of course, 75% had already been cut thanks to friends in Bill
F'ckhead Clinton's Forest Service)

"gatt" wrote in message
...


The rednecks who fired shotguns over our heads and dumped roofing nails
all over the road when the OSU Forestry Department and Time Magazine were
coming up to a timber arson auction site sure thought I was a treehugger.

Which "rednecks" were those?