OLC Submissions and Cambridge 302

Marc Ramsey wrote:
The one thing you absolutely do not want to do, is download from a 302
(or other approved flight recorders) using, for (a not quite random)
example, SeeYou, and send the resulting IGC file off without verifying it...

Too bad there isn't a requirement for a checksum in addition to the G
record. The checksum would validate the integrity of the file without
the overhead and "proprietariness" of validating the security of the
file.

-Tom

Doug Haluza wrote:
Be advised that we have identfied a problem with the C302 where
valicam2.exe reports "Log Data Integrity OK, Signature Data Integrity
OK, Security Fail" which indicates a bad security seal, even though the
C302 reports that the security seal is good. All we know so far is that
it has happened on a C302 that has produced good logs before without
any known cause (i.e. it wasn't tampered with). Suspected causes are
nearly full memory, and not using the datacam2.exe DOS download
program, but we have not been able to isolate this yet. So if you have
had this problem, please post your story to help us understand the
problem.

My 302 was delivered to me with this problem. I put up with it for a
year because my contest logs were still accepted. I then returned the
302 to Cambridge for sealing. Late last year it happened again - 302
display reporting good seal but log showed bad security and was
rejected by OLC. Again I returned it for reseal but only at the end of
season and continued to download my logs. I think they reported
security fail. I used my model 25 for OLC claims and didn't lose any
flights.

I later was very surprised that a review of my 302 logs using Aero
Explorer Plus showed that the security problem only showed on one day
and that subsequent logs were ok. It seems the problem healed itself
and I didn't need to return it. I'll go back and check again if there
is interest in pooling data to fix the problem

I use GlideNav II for download but also tried the CAI pda utility.
Neither gave a good security report for the problem flight.

Andy (GY)

There is one case on the OLC now where alternate flights from the same
logger show good/bad/good/bad security. Cambridge has requested the
unit be returned for flash replacement. One suggestion is that the
problem may be related to the memory wraparound where old logs are
deleted to make room for a new log. If so, erasing the logger memory
before it fills up may help, but this is speculation and has not been
confirmed. This would be consistent with your experience, though.

Andy wrote:
Doug Haluza wrote:
My 302 was delivered to me with this problem. I put up with it for a
year because my contest logs were still accepted. I then returned the
302 to Cambridge for sealing. Late last year it happened again - 302
display reporting good seal but log showed bad security and was
rejected by OLC. Again I returned it for reseal but only at the end of
season and continued to download my logs. I think they reported
security fail. I used my model 25 for OLC claims and didn't lose any
flights.

I later was very surprised that a review of my 302 logs using Aero
Explorer Plus showed that the security problem only showed on one day
and that subsequent logs were ok. It seems the problem healed itself
and I didn't need to return it. I'll go back and check again if there
is interest in pooling data to fix the problem

I use GlideNav II for download but also tried the CAI pda utility.
Neither gave a good security report for the problem flight.

Andy (GY)

Actually, there is some kind of internal issue with some of the 302's.
Doesn't seem to be all but some do seem to develop this same problem
over time. Guy in my club had the same problem (Fails Security but
unit says seal is fine). Had to send in the unit to get it corrected.
Talked to Gary K and he said they had a problem and could fix it but
the units had to be sent in. Worked for my friends 302 anyway.

-Mark

wrote:
Actually, there is some kind of internal issue with some of the 302's.
Doesn't seem to be all but some do seem to develop this same problem
over time. Guy in my club had the same problem (Fails Security but
unit says seal is fine). Had to send in the unit to get it corrected.
Talked to Gary K and he said they had a problem and could fix it but
the units had to be sent in. Worked for my friends 302 anyway.

-Mark

Do you know what they did to correct it? With mine, they told me I
needed to replace the flash memory (which I did, at some expense).

Nope. They just had him send it in and it was fixed under warranty.
The only thing he paid for was a charge for calibration.

-Mark