New email address

Morgans wrote:

"Jerry Springer" wrote


And you are so naive that you don't know that spammers are sending spam to
your phony email address, then being bounced back?


So if you put your address down as jerry at springer dot net, the spam bots
are going to pick it up, and boounce it back?

I seriously doubt it.

The spam bot have figured out that one a long time ago

You don't think that the spam bot are looking at your FROM address?
They are still going to try to send spam to it whether it is a
legitimate address or not. When it does not go through it is bounced back.
Now if you are bitching because I use a real email address
and some spam bot might get my email address and send me spam
well I guess there are a lot of offenders in the newsgroups.
BTW why do you care if I get spam or not? Really not your place to
worry about me and how I use my computer.

The idiot that is worrying about me using my real email address and it
causing clutter and slowing down the net is just that an idiot.

On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:39:46 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Jerry Springer" wrote

And you are so naive that you don't know that spammers are sending spam to
your phony email address, then being bounced back?

So if you put your address down as jerry at springer dot net, the spam bots
are going to pick it up, and boounce it back?

Very easy to parse. I'd use look up tables, but it could be done with
IFTHEN statements.

We were doing more complicated stuff than that by the second year in
CS.

OTOH Many years back I had an address that suddenly started getting a
lot of spam. virtually nothing one day and the next I noticed
something was wrong with my e-mail. It appeared to be downloading, but
I wasn't seeing any results. So I logged into the server to look at my
account. It still had well over 400 messages to go. I deleted the
account without bothering to sort it. Last Fall (after a few years) I
thought I'd try that old address. The first day I activated it there
were something like 20 to 30 messages and none legit. I again deleted
that account.

Most of the spam that gets to my filters is either to this address
after it's fixed, or to one specific reflector which is the only place
I use that address. My filters just mark it read and put it into a
folder I can check for false positives.

One of the 7 deadly Internet sins is bouncing mail back. It does
absolutely nothing to the spammer.For a while there were a number of
programs that were doing that which resulted in many millions of
bounced e-mails a day.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

I seriously doubt it.

On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:34:40 GMT, Jerry Springer
wrote:

Morgans wrote:

"Jerry Springer" wrote As of the 25th of May I will
be using




Just curious, but why do you post the real thing here, for spam bots to
harvest?


I have never been a paranoid computer user. I sure I have not been
online as long as some here but I have not had a problem since the days
of using my first suitcase size portable computer which was an old
CPM Osborne.

Jerry, you really are old! :-))

I think that Osborne is the reason I have back problems. At least I
never had to take it on the airlines.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger Halstead wrote:

Jerry Springer wrote:
my first suitcase size portable computer which was an old CPM Osborne.


Jerry, you really are old! :-))


If Jerry is old then you are ancient Roger :-)


- John (had a KayPro Luggable CP/M computer once) Ousterhout -

Jerry Springer wrote:
Roger wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:34:40 GMT, Jerry Springer
wrote:


Morgans wrote:


"Jerry Springer" wrote As of the 25th of May
I will be using






Just curious, but why do you post the real thing here, for spam bots
to harvest?



I have never been a paranoid computer user. I sure I have not been
online as long as some here but I have not had a problem since the
days of using my first suitcase size portable computer which was an old
CPM Osborne.



Jerry, you really are old! :-))

I think that Osborne is the reason I have back problems. At least I
never had to take it on the airlines.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


I still have that Osborne I got it out a while back and fired it up
still works. :-)

Jerry

Jerry,
I believe I still have a pretty complete collection of CP/M software.
It's all in Kaypro format, and I can not rear the disks from this
Windoze box.

I'd like to find some way to get it all transfered to a CDR so it would
be readable.

Any Ideas?

Richard

cavelamb wrote:
Jerry Springer wrote:

Roger wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:34:40 GMT, Jerry Springer
wrote:


Morgans wrote:


"Jerry Springer" wrote As of the 25th of May
I will be using







Just curious, but why do you post the real thing here, for spam
bots to harvest?




I have never been a paranoid computer user. I sure I have not been
online as long as some here but I have not had a problem since the
days of using my first suitcase size portable computer which was an old
CPM Osborne.




Jerry, you really are old! :-))

I think that Osborne is the reason I have back problems. At least I
never had to take it on the airlines.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com



I still have that Osborne I got it out a while back and fired it up
still works. :-)

Jerry


Jerry,
I believe I still have a pretty complete collection of CP/M software.
It's all in Kaypro format, and I can not rear the disks from this
Windoze box.

I'd like to find some way to get it all transfered to a CDR so it would
be readable.

Any Ideas?

Richard


Richard, I have not had a need to transfer any of my old data so have
not researched a way to do that. Maybe Roger has an answer.

Jerry

On Fri, 26 May 2006 14:16:00 GMT, John Ousterhout
wrote:

Roger Halstead wrote:

Jerry Springer wrote:
my first suitcase size portable computer which was an old CPM Osborne.


Jerry, you really are old! :-))


If Jerry is old then you are ancient Roger :-)

When I talk about ancient history my kids used to think it was a first
hand account. Some of it was.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

- John (had a KayPro Luggable CP/M computer once) Ousterhout -

Morgans wrote:
"Jerry Springer" wrote As of the 25th of May I will
be using



Just curious, but why do you post the real thing here, for spam bots to
harvest?

It has been observed that spammers generally harvest from the headers
rather than from the body of Usenet traffic. That said, a fair number
of
Usenet newsgroups are gated to webpages.

Regardless, I use a proper email address in the headers of my Usenet
articles because doing otherwise breaks an important useful feature
of NNTP.

What gound I do yield to spammers I yield grudgingly and never without
a fight.

I would guess that the number of spammers who have lost accounts
because of the complaints I have sent could be counted on my fingers
and toes. But that number is greater than zero.

--

FF

Just curious, but why do you post the real thing here, for spam bots to
harvest?

It has been observed that spammers generally harvest from the headers
rather than from the body of Usenet traffic. That said, a fair number
of
Usenet newsgroups are gated to webpages.

Regardless, I use a proper email address in the headers of my Usenet
articles because doing otherwise breaks an important useful feature
of NNTP.

I used to do that, I looked at any message as useful communication. Then the
spam got to be a little excessive, it got to the stage where I was deleting
over 99% of messages, so I changed my email address. About three months
later I checked my old address and found over 120 thousand messages, all
spam except for about 100 that were genuine. Went back to using that address
as my ISP has installed anti spam software, but I still don't use my real
address in the reply address option box.

If somebody want's to send me a "private" e-mail, I'll send them my address.
It's so easy to harvest addresses that it's foolhardy to leave oneself
exposed like that.
--
..
..
Cheers,
Model Flyer


What gound I do yield to spammers I yield grudgingly and never without
a fight.

I would guess that the number of spammers who have lost accounts
because of the complaints I have sent could be counted on my fingers
and toes. But that number is greater than zero.

--

FF

Modelflyer wrote:
Just curious, but why do you post the real thing here, for spam bots to
harvest?

It has been observed that spammers generally harvest from the headers
rather than from the body of Usenet traffic. That said, a fair number
of
Usenet newsgroups are gated to webpages.

Regardless, I use a proper email address in the headers of my Usenet
articles because doing otherwise breaks an important useful feature
of NNTP.


I used to do that, I looked at any message as useful communication. Then the
spam got to be a little excessive, it got to the stage where I was deleting
over 99% of messages, so I changed my email address. About three months
later I checked my old address and found over 120 thousand messages, all
spam except for about 100 that were genuine. Went back to using that address
as my ISP has installed anti spam software, but I still don't use my real
address in the reply address option box.

If somebody want's to send me a "private" e-mail, I'll send them my address.
It's so easy to harvest addresses that it's foolhardy to leave oneself
exposed like that.

Foolhardy? nonsense, just because you do not know how to manage your
email program.
If you send your email address to someone you are just as likly to get
spammed from that as you are anywhere else. Anyone that puts your email
address in their address folder is setting you up for virus' and spam.

Jerry (not afraid of spammers or virus or to use my real email address)