Memorial Day USA

Uh folks???

It seems like there was a misunderstanding...unfortunate as it may be,
a big one.

And I know the quote was issue from another nation, but can we get back
to the point:

Never has so much been owed by so many to so few.

That phrase applies to OUR servicemen, too. I challenge you all to
show your thanks to those that have served, those that are serving.

While I will get together with friends on Memorial Day, we will ALL be
thanful to and hoist one for those who served, and especially those who
made the ultimate sacrifice, that we may enjoy our freedom, which is
NOT free, and continue to be a most generous nation, that we can give
billions to those less fortunate and those impacted by catastrophe.

Yes, it is sad that the most generous nation on Earth is also "the most
hated," but what I find more sad is that we "brothers," those who have
tasted flight, soared like eagles and (as Da Vinci put it), are forever
longing to return to the sky -- can become this trite with one another.

Calling the Confederate States an "enemy" is, in my mind, like
referring to a cancer as an invader. While we don't agree, we're still
shooting our brothers -- so much more the tragedy. By a twist of fate,
I was born north of the Mason-Dixon line, educated south of the line,
and settled as far away from that line as possilble. I've worked in
the north, the south, the east and the west. I arrive honest and
humble, and choose to do business with those that are honest -- I have
been blessed with a fantastic career, replete with enjoyable
opportunities meeting with people of all accents, colors and beliefs.
We are all ALLOWED opportunities by the actions of "the few," as
Winston Churchill referred to them...and from a service from a recently
deceased serviceman: "Do not squander the time given to you by God or
the freedom preserved by this Marine's life."

Shawn, I am sorry for your loss and am grateful that people like your
father have served, yet very sorrowful that they suffered and
sacrificed. You and your family will be in the thoughts and prayers of
my family, especially this memorial day weekend.

Jim and Jack, thanks for the thoughts, thanks for provoking others to
think and a hearty thank you to those who have served and sacrificed so
that we may do more than just soar, we may freely express our opinions
-- a luxury that not all on this planet can enjoy.

-Pete
#309

My mistake, I attributed TTaylor's comments to Shawn. I can understand
why he is upset. I would be too. My apologies to Shawn... but I wasn't
smoking anything... either. Even though my angry statements were
misdirected, I stand by them, with the exception of their direction.

Well said, Pete. Thanks for speaking "my mind", and I hope, the silent
majority's.

Peace,
Sarah

Mark628CA wrote:
Shawn, and all you wannabe shawns-

Please never contact me for any products or services. I will refuse
you, as you are ungrateful assholes.

Fine. But what do I owe the decedents of Confederate soldiers?

Shawn

309 wrote:
Uh folks???

It seems like there was a misunderstanding...unfortunate as it may be,
a big one.

And I know the quote was issue from another nation, but can we get back
to the point:

Never has so much been owed by so many to so few.

That phrase applies to OUR servicemen, too. I challenge you all to
show your thanks to those that have served, those that are serving.

While I will get together with friends on Memorial Day, we will ALL be
thanful to and hoist one for those who served, and especially those who
made the ultimate sacrifice, that we may enjoy our freedom, which is
NOT free, and continue to be a most generous nation, that we can give
billions to those less fortunate and those impacted by catastrophe.

Yes, it is sad that the most generous nation on Earth is also "the most
hated," but what I find more sad is that we "brothers," those who have
tasted flight, soared like eagles and (as Da Vinci put it), are forever
longing to return to the sky -- can become this trite with one another.

Calling the Confederate States an "enemy" is, in my mind, like
referring to a cancer as an invader. While we don't agree, we're still
shooting our brothers -- so much more the tragedy. By a twist of fate,
I was born north of the Mason-Dixon line, educated south of the line,
and settled as far away from that line as possilble. I've worked in
the north, the south, the east and the west. I arrive honest and
humble, and choose to do business with those that are honest -- I have
been blessed with a fantastic career, replete with enjoyable
opportunities meeting with people of all accents, colors and beliefs.
We are all ALLOWED opportunities by the actions of "the few," as
Winston Churchill referred to them...and from a service from a recently
deceased serviceman: "Do not squander the time given to you by God or
the freedom preserved by this Marine's life."

Shawn, I am sorry for your loss and am grateful that people like your
father have served, yet very sorrowful that they suffered and
sacrificed. You and your family will be in the thoughts and prayers of
my family, especially this memorial day weekend.

Jim and Jack, thanks for the thoughts, thanks for provoking others to
think and a hearty thank you to those who have served and sacrificed so
that we may do more than just soar, we may freely express our opinions
-- a luxury that not all on this planet can enjoy.

-Pete
#309

Thank you Pete.

Shawn

Jack wrote:
My mistake, I attributed TTaylor's comments to Shawn. I can understand
why he is upset. I would be too. My apologies to Shawn... but I wasn't
smoking anything... either. Even though my angry statements were
misdirected, I stand by them, with the exception of their direction.

Yeah I finally pulled my head out of my ass and figured out the misquoting.
Stand by your statements Jack. Lots of our friends and relatives (and
selves in your case) fought for that right and privilege.
My apologies as well.
Have a good memorial day (that doesn't sound quite right, but I suspect
you understand the sentiment).

Shawn

Jim Culp wrote:

America,

Land of the Free

But please remember that there are *other* free countries out there past
the big blue bits on the map either side of North America.

--
Robert Hart
+61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au

Actually Jack, most Europeans don't hate or look down
on the USA at all. We actually admire your culture
and enterprise.

However we dislike your President and we hate his decision
to invade Iraq, in defiance of the United Nations and
for that matter common sense. If the most powerful
country in the World won't obey the rule of law, why
should any other state? I am only sorry the my country,
the United Kingdom, got involved, despite the biggest
protest march ever against this on the streets of London,
which included my good self.

I'm sorry, but I find myself cheering every time a
US soldier gets killed in Iraq. This is obviously not
at a personal level, so much as it serves your country
right! Blame your idiotic President and Donald Rumsfeld;
not the Iraqis who are only fighting to free their
own country. You value freedom, so why shouldn't they?

At the end of the day, what possible threat was Iraq
to the USA? As far as I can see, this was a revenge
attack for the World Trade Centre attrocity, which
was probably nothing to do with Iraq.

Derek C

At 02:24 27 May 2006, Jack wrote:
Quote: Jim,
This is the attitude that makes the USA the most hated
and looked down
upon country in the world right now. Too bad we still
have so many in
this country that don't understand humility.

Shawn,

What greater humility exists? Laying your life down
for the freedom of
your countrymen, as well as the freedom of the French
(who hate us),
the British ( who mostly hate us) the East Germans
(who hate us), the
Koreans, Chinese, and Vietnamese (who hate us), The
Iraquis, (who
definitely hate us.) All of them hate us until they
come over here to
our land of opportunity. Ask me if I give a crap about
who hates us.
I'm pretty sick of them, too. Fight your own wars or
give the fallen
American soldier his due respect. All of Europe would
be spending marks
and speaking German right now if not for American GIs.
For that matter,
China would be speaking Japanese. Let's not forget
that America was
trying it's best to stay out of that mess and all the
other wars it has
lead us to. It's a little bit like crying around about
America being
the only country that used a nuclear weapon. I'm not
sure where you
are, but had we not, your father might not have been
around, because he
would have been one of the million or so projected
casualties of the
Japanese invasion, that never took place.

On a day like Memorial Day, PLEASE take your pinko-commie
politics and
stick them squarely where the sun don't shine. You
need a dose of
humility, yourself. For your info, I almost got my
ass shot off in
Vietnam and I have no tolerance for people like you
on Memorial Day.
And by the way, I don't think anyone really looks DOWN
on us.
Misinformed people like you that don't know history
are bound to repeat
it. I pray that you're not an American, that I almost
died for. If you
are, and you are so upset about the rest of the jealous
world hating
us, why not move out of the country and join them.
My son's in Iraq
right now. I certainly wouldn't trade his life for
yours.

In other words... **** up a rope.

Jim Culp, THANK YOU!

Jack Womack

Derek Copeland schrieb:

Blame your idiotic President

Rather blame all those who elected him. And, worse yet, re-elected him 4
years later. But what has all this to do with soaring?

Stefan

Hi Stefan

Nothing whatsoever to do with soaring, except that
I suspect that none is taking place in Iraq right now.
Does anyone know if it was allowed under Saddam Hussain's
regime?

I guess from your e-mail address that you are Swiss.
If so your country has remained committedly neutral
during all recent wars, beyond defending its own borders,
and has benefitted greatly as a result. Hardly anybody
hates the Swiss, apart from certain tax raising government
departments in other countries that is. Perhaps the
USA could learn from this!

Derek C


At 08:12 29 May 2006, Stefan wrote:
Derek Copeland schrieb:

Blame your idiotic President

Rather blame all those who elected him. And, worse
yet, re-elected him 4
years later. But what has all this to do with soaring?