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Old May 28th 06, 02:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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john smith wrote:

The full article...

Airbus Planes to Use Computers
In Crash-Avoidance Maneuvers
By ANDY PASZTOR
May 27, 2006; Page A4

blatant copyright violation snipped

The full article is available at the link the original poster provided.
I believe the WSJ copyrights their articles so it is most likely a
violation to reproduce their works and publish them to the world in
their entirety yourself. Why do that?

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Old May 28th 06, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob Noel wrote:

In article , John
wrote:

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Anyone who can't see the potential problems with this should be required
to understand the many times automation is discussed in comp.risks.


Apparently Airbus is putting serious engineering into this and not just
slapping something together. Why be afraid of any automation? I don't
think that inherently unstable aircraft like the B-2 or X-31 could fly
at all without heavy duty automation. Let's not forget that people
(pilots) have many potential problems too. Consider that some of the
worst nuclear accidents (Chernoybl, Idaho Labs, TMI) were at least
partially caused by humans bypassing or overriding automation systems.

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Old May 28th 06, 03:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In a previous article, Jeff Rogers said:
slapping something together. Why be afraid of any automation? I don't
think that inherently unstable aircraft like the B-2 or X-31 could fly
at all without heavy duty automation. Let's not forget that people


Let's also not forget two crashes of the Saab Gripen and one of the YF-22
caused by incorrectly tuned software.

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Old May 28th 06, 03:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Jeff Rogers wrote:

Anyone who can't see the potential problems with this should be required
to understand the many times automation is discussed in comp.risks.


Apparently Airbus is putting serious engineering into this and not just
slapping something together. Why be afraid of any automation?


I'm not afraid of automation. I'm afraid of people who place too much
faith in automation. Sure, humans make mistakes, sometimes
spectacular mistakes. And automated systems make mistakes.

Note that I never ever said automated systems are better or worse than
human systems. I have this futile hope that people will think thru all
the risks and potential problems.

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Old May 28th 06, 03:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Jeff Rogers wrote:

The full article is available at the link the original poster provided.


Yes, provided you have a user id and password.
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Old May 28th 06, 03:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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john smith wrote:

In article ,
Jeff Rogers wrote:


The full article is available at the link the original poster provided.



Yes, provided you have a user id and password.


Huh? What are you talking about? I read the article just fine without
a user id and password using the link provided.

But if a password WAS required to view the article, wouldn't that be all
the more reason not to republish somebody else's works without their
permission? (I'm guessing that you didn't receive permission, correct
me if I'm wrong) Would you mind if I took something that you made and
gave it away to the world?
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Old May 28th 06, 05:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in news:6v5eg.75$Q73.9093
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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"FLAV8R" wrote in
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Wow! I feel like I'm reading some sort of SciFi horror story where man
(and
woman) are replaced by computers and man is doomed to be eradicated.
What next?! Cars that drive themselves? Oh wait! Mercedes has already
been
working on that one.
And my company is working to remove all its workforce and what it can't
remove it outsources to India.

David

You are obsolete! (from a Twilight Zone episode)

Better yet, "To Serve Man".


mmMMMMMmmmm....soilent green.

One man, sautéed in olive oil...


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Old May 28th 06, 05:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"john smith" wrote in message
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Better yet, "To Serve Man".


mmMMMMMmmmm....soilent green.


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Old May 28th 06, 05:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in news:6v5eg.75$Q73.9093
@news.uswest.net:


"Skywise" wrote in message
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"FLAV8R" wrote in
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Wow! I feel like I'm reading some sort of SciFi horror story where
man (and
woman) are replaced by computers and man is doomed to be eradicated.
What next?! Cars that drive themselves? Oh wait! Mercedes has
already been
working on that one.
And my company is working to remove all its workforce and what it
can't remove it outsources to India.

David

You are obsolete! (from a Twilight Zone episode)

Better yet, "To Serve Man".


mmMMMMMmmmm....soilent green.

One man, sautéed in olive oil...


No MSG!!!!

Brian
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Old May 28th 06, 06:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Skywise" wrote in message
...
"Matt Barrow" wrote in
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"Skywise" wrote in message
...
"Matt Barrow" wrote in news:6v5eg.75$Q73.9093
@news.uswest.net:


"Skywise" wrote in message
...
"FLAV8R" wrote in
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Wow! I feel like I'm reading some sort of SciFi horror story where
man (and
woman) are replaced by computers and man is doomed to be eradicated.
What next?! Cars that drive themselves? Oh wait! Mercedes has
already been
working on that one.
And my company is working to remove all its workforce and what it
can't remove it outsources to India.

David

You are obsolete! (from a Twilight Zone episode)

Better yet, "To Serve Man".

mmMMMMMmmmm....soilent green.

One man, sautéed in olive oil...


No MSG!!!!

Brian


Don't need it if man is fresh, not frozen!





 




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