Plane Loses Both Wings In Mid-Air............Why ?

Dudley Henriques wrote:

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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Lufthansi wrote:

This happened on some Airshow in Asia. The Airplane last both wings in
midair and consequently crashed. Maybe it did some aerobatic loops
prior to wing-failure ? Check it out :
http://www.jumpingpixels.com/aircraft2.html


Everybody wants to be Bob Hoover.



.................and what they forget is that the secret to being Bob Hoover
is NOT pulling g's.

At least not pulling too many g's. :-) Bob pulls just enough, but not
too much.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
...

Lufthansi wrote:

This happened on some Airshow in Asia. The Airplane last both wings in
midair and consequently crashed. Maybe it did some aerobatic loops
prior to wing-failure ? Check it out :
http://www.jumpingpixels.com/aircraft2.html


Everybody wants to be Bob Hoover.



.................and what they forget is that the secret to being Bob Hoover
is NOT pulling g's.

At least not pulling too many g's. :-) Bob pulls just enough, but not
too much.


Matt

I'm wondering if the sudden change in G forces abruptly after the wings
snapped may have knocked out the pilots so that they didn't have to see
the ground coming uo to smight them...

Monk

"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote

Both wings seemed to fail at essentially the same instant, and in the
same place (just outboard of the engines).

Eek; that model or something very like it is one of only two small
planes I've been in, and the only one I've gotten to manipulate the
controls of. But the pilot who took me up wasn't trying to do
aerobatics with it!

You can bet that this was not the first time he had done aero in an
unapproved aero plane, and though I hate to say it, he got what he
deserved.

Kick superman in the shins, and sooner or later, he is gonna crush your
butt.

I wish we could distribute this video to all new pilots, and a few of the
old ones, like NW Pilot, too.
--
Jim in NC

john smith wrote:
In article ,
Ron Natalie wrote:

I don't think it is this video, but a different one several years ago
when a pilot doing loops in a Partenavia during an airshow folded the
wings back. It was his wife who was shooting the video if I recall.

Someplace in Texas. Midland, maybe?

Plainview, 9/11/83:

THE PLT WAS EXECUTING A HIGH SPEED PASS OVER THE RWY AT ABOUT 250 FT
AGL. THE PLT THEN BEGAN A RAPID PULL-UP & BOTH WINGS SEPARATED JUST
OUTBOARD OF THE ENG NACELLES. RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SEQUENCE FROM A
VIDEOTAPE REVEALED THAT THE ACFT'S SPEED AT THE TIME OF THE WING
SEPARATIONS WAS 220 KTS. VNE FOR THE ACFT IS 193 KTS. IT WAS CALCULATED
THAT, AT 220 KTS & AN 8 DEG NOSE-UP PITCH, THE 'G' LOAD AT THE
TIME OF THE WING SEPARATIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN 8.3 G'S.

Ron Natalie wrote:
john smith wrote:
In article ,
Ron Natalie wrote:

I don't think it is this video, but a different one several years ago
when a pilot doing loops in a Partenavia during an airshow folded the
wings back. It was his wife who was shooting the video if I recall.

Someplace in Texas. Midland, maybe?

Plainview, 9/11/83:

THE PLT WAS EXECUTING A HIGH SPEED PASS OVER THE RWY AT ABOUT 250 FT
AGL. THE PLT THEN BEGAN A RAPID PULL-UP & BOTH WINGS SEPARATED JUST
OUTBOARD OF THE ENG NACELLES. RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SEQUENCE FROM A
VIDEOTAPE REVEALED THAT THE ACFT'S SPEED AT THE TIME OF THE WING
SEPARATIONS WAS 220 KTS. VNE FOR THE ACFT IS 193 KTS. IT WAS CALCULATED
THAT, AT 220 KTS & AN 8 DEG NOSE-UP PITCH, THE 'G' LOAD AT THE
TIME OF THE WING SEPARATIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN 8.3 G'S.

Honestly, what makes anyone think doing that is a good idea?

"Ron Natalie" wrote

THE PLT WAS EXECUTING A HIGH SPEED PASS OVER THE RWY AT ABOUT 250 FT
AGL. THE PLT THEN BEGAN A RAPID PULL-UP & BOTH WINGS SEPARATED JUST
OUTBOARD OF THE ENG NACELLES. RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SEQUENCE FROM A
VIDEOTAPE REVEALED THAT THE ACFT'S SPEED AT THE TIME OF THE WING
SEPARATIONS WAS 220 KTS. VNE FOR THE ACFT IS 193 KTS. IT WAS CALCULATED
THAT, AT 220 KTS & AN 8 DEG NOSE-UP PITCH, THE 'G' LOAD AT THE
TIME OF THE WING SEPARATIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN 8.3 G'S.

One word:

Wooops! :-((
--
Jim in NC

Lufthansi wrote:

This happened on some Airshow in Asia. The Airplane last both wings in
midair and consequently crashed. Maybe it did some aerobatic loops
prior to wing-failure ? Check it out :
http://www.jumpingpixels.com/aircraft2.html

In Asia?
This accident took place in Plainview Texas.

NTSB Report:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...14X44523&key=1

He had been doing it for a while.

What was different this time was that a reporter did a TV story on him. He
took the reporter up they taped some aerobatic maneuvers and an interview in
flight, before the airshow. It was thought that the pilot may have pulled up
harder this time because he knew it would be on TV.





"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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My understanding is that this guy had been doing this for awhile. He
routinely over stressed the airframe until the eventually gave back.