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Old September 12th 06, 02:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Default emergency landing in downtown Montreal ends well

Dave wrote:
The only place that scared me more than Montreal was in Madrid,
and there I was only a passenger.


I've driven in Montreal and Madrid and a whole lot of other places. I'd
vote for Paris, France as the worst I've experienced. Didn't drive
there, but the wildest ride I've ever had was in a taxi in Taipei.


Don't tell me that - I'm going there next month.

(I am a horrible passenger, planes or cars)
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Old September 12th 06, 03:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrey Serbinenko
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I've driven quite a bit in the past few years: Montreal didn't
strike me as something much out of the ordinary. Paris was not
too bad either except for perhaps place de la Concorde, which can be
stressful. Germany did impress me with a lot of high-speed
recklessness on major highways -- more than I've seen anywhere
else. But the worst was Rome and the stretch of A1 between Florence
and Bologna.

Andrey


Dave wrote:
The only place that scared me more than Montreal was in Madrid,
and there I was only a passenger.


I've driven in Montreal and Madrid and a whole lot of other places. I'd
vote for Paris, France as the worst I've experienced. Didn't drive
there, but the wildest ride I've ever had was in a taxi in Taipei.

David Johnson

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Old September 12th 06, 12:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stefan
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Jose schrieb:

That's what I heard about Rome.


It's not bad at all. The trick to it is to know that that's what they
do, and more to the point, that's what they expect =you= to do. They
are ready and expect you to be ready.


It only becomes really dangerous when an American overtakes on the right
lane of a highway. Because nobody expects it, nobody is looking there.

Or, in other words: It all boils down to understand how the system works
and adopt to it.

Stefan
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Old September 12th 06, 01:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Neil Gould
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Recently, Emily posted:

john smith wrote:
In article ,
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

I've driven in Montreal and Dallas. Except for the fact that the
Dallas drivers were probably armed, they didn't worry me as much as
the Montreal drivers. The only place that scared me more than
Montreal was in Madrid, and there I was only a passenger.


Puerto Rico... Rule of the First Bumper: If my bumper is ahead of
yours, I can cut in front of you.


That's what I heard about Rome. I told my boss last month when he
threatened to send me that I might drive fast, but not that bad.

Rome wasn't that bad, the other drivers are predictable but the Police
have some odd notions of how violations should be handled.

The worst place that I've driven was Torre del Greco, a small Italian
town. It's on every map of Italy that I've seen, regardless of how small
the map (it's near Pompei & Naples). I think it's a subtle warning. ;-)

Second worst is Boston & vicinity. In other places drivers will do just
about anything imaginable, but in Boston, you have to watch out for those
things you never imagined anyone would do. Every time I've been there I've
seen someone driving the wrong way on the freeway, but that isn't the
worst I've seen there.

Neil


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Old September 12th 06, 01:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Default emergency landing in downtown Montreal ends well

Stefan wrote:
Jose schrieb:

That's what I heard about Rome.


It's not bad at all. The trick to it is to know that that's what they
do, and more to the point, that's what they expect =you= to do. They
are ready and expect you to be ready.


It only becomes really dangerous when an American overtakes on the right
lane of a highway. Because nobody expects it, nobody is looking there.


Hey, you aren't supposed to do that here, and I think it's a stupid
rule. If you're going to slow, I'm going to pass you, I don't care in
which lane I have to do it in.
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Old September 12th 06, 06:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Beckman
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"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
Stefan wrote:
Jose schrieb:

That's what I heard about Rome.


It's not bad at all. The trick to it is to know that that's what they
do, and more to the point, that's what they expect =you= to do. They
are ready and expect you to be ready.


It only becomes really dangerous when an American overtakes on the right
lane of a highway. Because nobody expects it, nobody is looking there.


Hey, you aren't supposed to do that here, and I think it's a stupid rule.
If you're going to slow, I'm going to pass you, I don't care in which lane
I have to do it in.


I'll remember you said that after they pull you out of the ditch. evil g

There is nothing I hate more than someone who won't even momentarilly lift
to give slower traffic a chace to move to the right. Instead, they run up
on your ass and just cut hard right to pass. If I start to move over and
someone pulls that ****, if their front left hasn't passed my right rear, I
finish the move to the right.

Unlike most of humanity, I actually know how to use my mirrors, I check them
often and I will get out of the way of faster traffic (unless it will blow
my momentum for passing someone else who is even slower...)

Jay B


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Old September 12th 06, 06:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jon Woellhaf
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Default emergency landing in downtown Montreal ends well

Neil Gould wrote about really bad drivers,
... Every time I've been [to Boston] I've
seen someone driving the wrong way on the freeway, but that isn't the
worst I've seen there.


What IS the worst you've seen there?!


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Old September 12th 06, 07:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Clear
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Default emergency landing in downtown Montreal ends well

In article ,
Jon Woellhaf wrote:
Neil Gould wrote about really bad drivers,
... Every time I've been [to Boston] I've
seen someone driving the wrong way on the freeway, but that isn't the
worst I've seen there.


What IS the worst you've seen there?!


As Dave Barry said in a column a long time ago, "In Boston, the
drivers refuse to obey even the laws of physics."

I learned to drive in and around NYC. I've driven coast to coast
and in 46 of the 50 states. Drivers everywhere have their own
local stupid driving tricks. Once you figure out the local tricks,
you can predict what sort of stupid things the cars around you are
likely to do. Drivers in Boston are so unpredictable that I never
got comfortable driving there.

Driving rules in NYC are easy. It just comes down to right of
mass, being willing to drive within millimeters of another car,
and knowing when to flinch. And taxi cabs always win.

John
--
John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/

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Old September 12th 06, 07:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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I'll remember you said that after they pull you out of the ditch. evil g

There is nothing I hate more than someone who won't even momentarilly lift
to give slower traffic a chace to move to the right.


And some (most...like 95%) won't move right unless forced over!!!

Instead, they run up on your ass and just cut hard right to pass. If I
start to move over and someone pulls that ****, if their front left hasn't
passed my right rear, I finish the move to the right.


What were you doing in the left lane in the first place? silly g


Unlike most of humanity, I actually know how to use my mirrors, I check
them often and I will get out of the way of faster traffic (unless it will
blow my momentum for passing someone else who is even slower...)


Most drivers use mirrors to check their hair :~(

It used to be that having someone pass you on the right meant YOU got a
ticket (i.e., you're not supposed to use the left lanes for trolling, only
for cruising.




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Old September 12th 06, 07:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow
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Default emergency landing in downtown Montreal ends well


"John Clear" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jon Woellhaf wrote:
Neil Gould wrote about really bad drivers,
... Every time I've been [to Boston] I've
seen someone driving the wrong way on the freeway, but that isn't the
worst I've seen there.


What IS the worst you've seen there?!


As Dave Barry said in a column a long time ago, "In Boston, the
drivers refuse to obey even the laws of physics."

I learned to drive in and around NYC. I've driven coast to coast
and in 46 of the 50 states. Drivers everywhere have their own
local stupid driving tricks. Once you figure out the local tricks,
you can predict what sort of stupid things the cars around you are
likely to do. Drivers in Boston are so unpredictable that I never
got comfortable driving there.


In Ohio (Columbus), they stop about 40 feet behind the car in front of them
so as to not slide into the back of that car during winter weather. Of
course, they still do this is in June, during dry weather.



 




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