Please Ignore Mxsmanic

On 2006-09-26, Emily wrote:
Now why would anyone plonk you? You seem pretty reasonable to me.

Well, it's not by accident that the person using the killfile is
the "plonker".

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD

http://www.ben.com/

("Emily" wrote)
Now why would anyone plonk you?


Tough crowd.


Montblack

"Terry" wrote in message
ink.net...
To all the "real" pilots reading this newsgroup.......

It's very obvious that Mxsmanic is not serious about learning to fly real
airplanes.
The questions asked by him are very basic questions that could be found by
reading and educating himself in the "right way". Instead it appears he is
lazy and
wants to take the easy way out. He prefers to use us in this newsgroup
give him the answers to his mostly stupid questions.

I respect alot of you as fellow pilots in this newsgroup and value your
viewpoint
even tho I have over 2,000 hours and built my 1st airplane 20 years ago.
It's aways
interesting to hear others opinions and I will be the first to admit there
is always
something to learn. I enjoy helping others that might have questions about
flying
or a particular airplane if I can. It's very clear that Mxsmanic has not
tried in anyway
to educate himself in anyway other than to ask in this newsgroup.

So here's the delimma, a lot of you knowledgeable people are feeding the
troll!
I know without a doubt, there is a sincere desire to be helpful but all
that is
happening is for every stupid question answered, two more are in the
newgroup
the next day.... it's never ending. I don't want to "kill file" anybody
but Mxsmanic.
I do want to read the rest of your postings and I enjoy them and learn
from them.

Final comment, please stop responding the Mxsmanic postings, comments
about
him, Flight Sim's etc. Just let him fade away and get this newsgroup back
to
questions about flying REAL airplanes, REAL questions, from REAL people.

Thank You from 63 year old fellow pilot...

Terry
N6401F

As much as I agree that flight sim problems are rarely solved with real
world flying solutions, and that he may be asking some of the questions in
the wrong group, I have to say that I am also a flight simmer! And yes, I am
learning to fly. I only have 1 hour so far, so have just begun my journey,
but just because I am not a real pilot yet, doesn't mean that some of my
curious questions that arise from the simming world might not be worth
listening to from a real world pilot point of view.
You need to remember that just because a thread has been posted, it doesn't
mean you have to read it.
Crash Lander

Crash Lander wrote:

I am not a real pilot yet, doesn't mean that some of my
curious questions that arise from the simming world might not be worth
listening to from a real world pilot point of view.

This particular issue has to do with the manner in which the subject-named
individual responds once people take the time to give an educated, detailed
answer.

Someone like yourself has demonstrated a willingness to learn and an
appreciation for the time someone else took to answer your questions. The
subject-named individual does not do that, instead choosing to argue
without facts and post inflammatory comments of his own.

I KF'ed this one weeks ago and created a filter to kill the post following
his, so he absolutely no longer exists in my Usenet world, other than these
tribute threads here. A simple subject-based filter will take care of
that, too.

--
Peter

Crash Lander wrote:
As much as I agree that flight sim problems are rarely solved with real
world flying solutions, and that he may be asking some of the questions in
the wrong group, I have to say that I am also a flight simmer! And yes, I am
learning to fly. I only have 1 hour so far, so have just begun my journey,
but just because I am not a real pilot yet, doesn't mean that some of my
curious questions that arise from the simming world might not be worth
listening to from a real world pilot point of view.
You need to remember that just because a thread has been posted, it doesn't
mean you have to read it.
Crash Lander


1) You *are* a real pilot with just one hour... a student pilot. Every
licensed pilot starts that way.

2) Being a flight simmer isn't the issue here... it's only the wrapper around
the rotten meat.

3) The sheer volume of postings from Numbnuts makes it difficult to just
killfile his threads. Sure, I can easily killfile *him*, but I'm left with the
mass of replies. More to the point, the mass of replies sucks the oxygen out of
the room for any real questions.

4) While you have every intention of completing your course of study, Numbnuts
only wants to lecture us so as to demonstrate his superior knowledge. The fact
that he has none doesn't faze him. *He* is not a real pilot; nor does he have
any intention of ever learning how to fly. That's why he needs to go away from
here and rec.aviation.student, where he also crossposts.

Bottom line: it's not that Numbnuts is a simmer; it's that the simmer is
Numbnuts and he doesn't want to learn; only to lecture.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

"Crash Lander" wrote in message
...
As much as I agree that flight sim problems are rarely solved with real
world flying solutions, and that he may be asking some of the questions in
the wrong group, I have to say that I am also a flight simmer! And yes, I
am learning to fly. I only have 1 hour so far, so have just begun my
journey, but just because I am not a real pilot yet, doesn't mean that
some of my curious questions that arise from the simming world might not
be worth listening to from a real world pilot point of view.
You need to remember that just because a thread has been posted, it
doesn't mean you have to read it.
Crash Lander

(I'll vouch for "Crash" ... he's good people (in a usenet kinda way...gdr))

The difference here CL, is that Mx:

1) Has preconcieved notions
2) Is unwilling to accept the answers he's given
3) Insists the answers he's given are wrong and already knows exactly why
(adjunct to point #1)

No one here will hesitate to inform, enlighten and help educate new pilots
if the impression is given (and it can be real or imagined...) that the
person posing the questions can actually read the info, digest it and be
grateful for the help. Hell, no one would even care if you wanted to debate
an issue provided you do so with logic and facts based on real world
experiences or observations.

Just don't come in here telling hundreds of pilots with experience levels
ranging from newbie to multi-thousands of hours that you know better than
they do because your computer sim doesn't work that way.

Best of luck with your training. Post early and often as you go...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
news:05cSg.246$V6.53@fed1read06...

"Crash Lander" wrote in message
...
As much as I agree that flight sim problems are rarely solved with real
world flying solutions, and that he may be asking some of the questions
in the wrong group, I have to say that I am also a flight simmer! And
yes, I am learning to fly. I only have 1 hour so far, so have just begun
my journey, but just because I am not a real pilot yet, doesn't mean that
some of my curious questions that arise from the simming world might not
be worth listening to from a real world pilot point of view.
You need to remember that just because a thread has been posted, it
doesn't mean you have to read it.
Crash Lander

(I'll vouch for "Crash" ... he's good people (in a usenet kinda
way...gdr))

The difference here CL, is that Mx:

1) Has preconcieved notions
2) Is unwilling to accept the answers he's given
3) Insists the answers he's given are wrong and already knows exactly why
(adjunct to point #1)

No one here will hesitate to inform, enlighten and help educate new pilots
if the impression is given (and it can be real or imagined...) that the
person posing the questions can actually read the info, digest it and be
grateful for the help. Hell, no one would even care if you wanted to
debate an issue provided you do so with logic and facts based on real
world experiences or observations.

Just don't come in here telling hundreds of pilots with experience levels
ranging from newbie to multi-thousands of hours that you know better than
they do because your computer sim doesn't work that way.

Best of luck with your training. Post early and often as you go...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

Judging from the long threads with little new posting from responders, I
think this particular gentleman may have already run his race on the pilot
forums :-))
So far, he has me definitely needing more dual so that I come to better
understand the basics of giving flight instruction , Pete Duniho needing
more instrument time so that he understands what flying IFR is actually all
about, and at last peek...(I'm just lurking here mind you...can't wait to
see what happens next... ) whether Todd Pattist needs some help with his
aerodynamics :-))
My personal opinion is that I hope this guy never leaves. Watching this is
more fun than a human being should be allowed to have in one lifetime
:-))))))))))))))))))
Dudley

Hi Dudley!
Still waiting for that photo mate! ;-)
Crash Lander

"Crash Lander" wrote in message
...
Hi Dudley!
Still waiting for that photo mate! ;-)
Crash Lander

Hi Lander;

Trust me CL; a picture of me would completely spoil your good work :-)
I find I have had to restructure my Usenet time a bit due to various
considerations, and I have removed that other newsgroup from my list and no
longer post there.
Please feel free to post to me here or on the student group at any time, or
you can catch me on the major sim forums where I will be continuing my work
with the community.
I'll keep an eye on your flying progress, and hope to be posting with you on
these groups as you progress along.
All the best,
Dudley Henriques

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:38:24 GMT, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:


"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
news:05cSg.246$V6.53@fed1read06...

"Crash Lander" wrote in message
...
As much as I agree that flight sim problems are rarely solved with real
world flying solutions, and that he may be asking some of the questions
in the wrong group, I have to say that I am also a flight simmer! And
yes, I am learning to fly. I only have 1 hour so far, so have just begun
my journey, but just because I am not a real pilot yet, doesn't mean that
some of my curious questions that arise from the simming world might not
be worth listening to from a real world pilot point of view.
You need to remember that just because a thread has been posted, it
doesn't mean you have to read it.
Crash Lander

(I'll vouch for "Crash" ... he's good people (in a usenet kinda
way...gdr))

The difference here CL, is that Mx:

1) Has preconcieved notions
2) Is unwilling to accept the answers he's given
3) Insists the answers he's given are wrong and already knows exactly why
(adjunct to point #1)

No one here will hesitate to inform, enlighten and help educate new pilots
if the impression is given (and it can be real or imagined...) that the
person posing the questions can actually read the info, digest it and be
grateful for the help. Hell, no one would even care if you wanted to
debate an issue provided you do so with logic and facts based on real
world experiences or observations.

Just don't come in here telling hundreds of pilots with experience levels
ranging from newbie to multi-thousands of hours that you know better than
they do because your computer sim doesn't work that way.

Best of luck with your training. Post early and often as you go...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

Judging from the long threads with little new posting from responders, I
think this particular gentleman may have already run his race on the pilot
forums :-))
So far, he has me definitely needing more dual so that I come to better
understand the basics of giving flight instruction , Pete Duniho needing
more instrument time so that he understands what flying IFR is actually all
about, and at last peek...(I'm just lurking here mind you...can't wait to
see what happens next... ) whether Todd Pattist needs some help with his
aerodynamics :-))
My personal opinion is that I hope this guy never leaves. Watching this is
more fun than a human being should be allowed to have in one lifetime
:-))))))))))))))))))
Dudley

Yup!

Hi Dudley,

What ever his reasoning he's asked some good questions. Questions that
make me think about how I do things and what I see out in the real
world. So, even if it's difficult to get some things across I really
think it's worth while...and as you said there is a certain
entertainment value involved in watching the threads progress.

Having to explain something that may be contrary to the way of
thinking of the explainee and then paraphrase it is one of the best
methods of learning:-))





Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com