Best Soaring Simulator??

Which of these are best for simulated landings and patterns?

Bob

"subpilot" wrote in message
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Which of these are best for simulated landings and patterns?

Bob


Good question. I'd like to see a sim dedicated to basic training.

That said, Condor does a pretty good job. The "flight school" section sets
the glider up in a downwind and the POV control lets the sim pilot look
sideways at his aim point. If you just want to practice flair and
touchdown, use the winch launch and just release at about 50' AGL. The
downside of Condor is that the reset for another flight takes way too long.

Bill Daniels

Bill Daniels wrote:
"subpilot" wrote in message
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Which of these are best for simulated landings and patterns?

Bob



Good question. I'd like to see a sim dedicated to basic training.

That said, Condor does a pretty good job. The "flight school" section sets
the glider up in a downwind and the POV control lets the sim pilot look
sideways at his aim point. If you just want to practice flair and
touchdown, use the winch launch and just release at about 50' AGL. The
downside of Condor is that the reset for another flight takes way too long.

Bill, do they make you unstrap, clear the runway, wait in the queue,
re-run the checklist, and hook-up?
Maybe it's just slow because it's on WinDoze. ;-)

Shawn (Just jealous because he hasn't bought an Intel Mac yet.)

subpilot wrote:
Which of these are best for simulated landings and patterns?

Bob

SFS-PC is designed for this kind of flying.

Bruce Greef wrote:

subpilot wrote:
Which of these are best for simulated landings and patterns?

Bob

SFS-PC is designed for this kind of flying.

Agreed, for circuit training SFS-PC is still the best.
It has far better airfield/circuit traffic modeling than any of the other
soaring sims I've used.

Condor and Silent Wings both require a restart after a landing although with
Silent Wings it's *really* fast (about 5 seconds on my old Athlon 1.6GHz).
Just hit Escape and R (restart) and you're lined up for another winch or
aerotow.

Paul

Bruce Greef schrieb:

Which of these are best for simulated landings and patterns?

SFS-PC is designed for this kind of flying.

Does it also simulate the push back of the glider?

Bruce Greef wrote:
subpilot wrote:
Which of these are best for simulated landings and patterns?

Bob

SFS-PC is designed for this kind of flying.

After having bought one, I would now say that TrackIR use is highly
recommended. This allows you to naturally "swivel your head" to keep
an eye on things as you fly or land. This develops the proper physical
reflexes, as opposed to manipulating a rocker switch with one's thumb.
I've checked and I'm sure my glider doesn't have a rocker switch. ;-)

Condor supports TrackIR. Does SFS-PC?

Regards,

-Doug

"Bruce Greef" wrote in message
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subpilot wrote:
Which of these are best for simulated landings and patterns?

Bob

SFS-PC is designed for this kind of flying.

SFS stands for...???

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nimbusgb wrote:
- Aerotow and winch are scripted and are not modeled too well. Rope
doesn't seem to stretch and the winch operator will pull you along at
200km/h if you let him instead of regulating the winch speed. Tug plane
isn't affected by the environment.

Some truth in this but its minor, Condor is race training / XC
focussed. The petty stuff is on the to-do list for the future.

So basically you're saying that Condor is more of a game and isn't focused
on simulating things accurately?
I'd hardly call launching procedures "petty stuff".

Paul

Paul Surgeon wrote:
So basically you're saying that Condor is more of a game and isn't focused
on simulating things accurately?
I'd hardly call launching procedures "petty stuff".

Paul

Get a grip Paul.