Cirrus crash in NYC

Reports say the plane belonge to NY Yankee pitcher Corey Lytle

Aha!
His instructor was probably a supporter of another team. You know how
crazed fans get about ball games. Just go to a "sports bar" on a game
night.
Jim

JS wrote:

Reports say the plane belonge to NY Yankee pitcher Corey Lytle


Aha!
His instructor was probably a supporter of another team. You know how
crazed fans get about ball games. Just go to a "sports bar" on a game
night.
Jim

Yankees are already out of the race.

Shawn

Mal wrote:
From the news footage it looks like it was raining and overcast.


To put it mildly! My office is across the Hudson river on the Jersey
side, only about 2-3 miles as the crow flies from the accident site.
Cloudbase was certainly less than 2,000 and frequently "indefinite". I
watched the helicopter traffic ducking under the clouds and thought how
nice it must be to be able to stop and come straight down. I guess a
brick wall can have the same effect.

Definitely not the day I would've chosen for the standard VFR corridor
run.

P3

OVER NYC is what I wrote. Check your sectional. Can you fly OVER NYC w/out
being in contact w/ATC?
Just realized--NYC is larger than Manhattan, but I only think of Manhattan
as NYC. My bad.

"Doug Haluza" wrote in message
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SAM 303a wrote:
Look out! Fox was interviewing some Congresscritter saying, 'we've got
to
put an end to unrestricted general aviation, think what could have
happened
had this been a terrorist'.
Of couse this ignores the fact that there already are no corridors over
NYC
where GA can fly w/out being in contact w/ATC.

Not true. There are VFR corridors up both the Hudson and the East
Rivers in New York CIty. The Cirrus was in the East River VFR corridor,
near the dead end prior to LaGuardia airspace, where they would have to
turn around. There was another aircraft nearby, and there is
speculation that they may have lost control in an evasive maneuver.

The pilot and aircraft owner is reported to be NY Yankee Pitcher Cory
Lidle, and he is also reported to have been with an instructor.

Charles Yeates wrote:
Land in the river ---


Which happens on average about once every 3 or 4 years...

It was like flying up a box canyon 2000 feet wide, with a u-turn at the
end. Unfortunately, a 40 degree bank at 112 mph results in a turn with
a diameter of about 2,000 feet, which leaves little room for error in
executing a u-turn.

It would have been prudent to make the turn at a slower speed, since
turn radius is proportional to the square of speed at a given bank
angle. 20 mph slower and the turn could have been made at
approximately standard rate with a bank angle of around 30 degrees.


Mike

Mike the Strike wrote:
It was like flying up a box canyon 2000 feet wide, with a u-turn at the
end. Unfortunately, a 40 degree bank at 112 mph results in a turn with
a diameter of about 2,000 feet, which leaves little room for error in
executing a u-turn.

It would have been prudent to make the turn at a slower speed, since
turn radius is proportional to the square of speed at a given bank
angle. 20 mph slower and the turn could have been made at
approximately standard rate with a bank angle of around 30 degrees.


Mike

Here is a good graphic of their flight path:

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtm...H_GRAPHIC.html

Tom

I am very surprised that a flight of this nature is
even allowed in the US, especially by a private pilot
in a single-engined aircraft. It wouldn't be in the
UK. Wasn't somebody in the building or on the ground
also killed?

Derek Copeland

At 04:00 16 October 2006, wrote:

Mike the Strike wrote:
It was like flying up a box canyon 2000 feet wide,
with a u-turn at the
end. Unfortunately, a 40 degree bank at 112 mph results
in a turn with
a diameter of about 2,000 feet, which leaves little
room for error in
executing a u-turn.

It would have been prudent to make the turn at a slower
speed, since
turn radius is proportional to the square of speed
at a given bank
angle. 20 mph slower and the turn could have been
made at
approximately standard rate with a bank angle of around
30 degrees.


Mike

Here is a good graphic of their flight path:

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtm...egion/20061011
_CRASH_GRAPHIC.html

Tom

Only the pilot and his instructor were killed. The apartments hit were
fortunately not occupied at the time, but several firefighters were
injured dealing with the blaze.

The VFR corridor up the river has now been closed and can only be flown
under the scrutiny of AIr Traffic Control. This is perhaps just as
well, given the tightness of this corridor.

Our concern in the USA is that this accident would be used to justify
even more clampdowns on general aviation under the post 9-11 hysteria.

Mike