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Old October 14th 06, 05:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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Default AS/MEL now need ATC permission over East River

In article k.net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

If that's the reason, then they should make a class b clearance a
requirement
for fixed-wing aircraft operating in that corridor.


Then what would be the purpose of the corridor?


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Old October 14th 06, 04:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Default AS/MEL now need ATC permission over East River

Bob Noel wrote:
In article , "me" wrote:

With respect.. The reason this will help is that when flying up that part
of the river while talking to atc they will be able to clear you into the
class b and LGA's airspace with out getting stuck in the canyon and not
being in a position to make the narrow turn to try and stay out of the class
b.


If that's the reason, then they should make a class b clearance a requirement
for fixed-wing aircraft operating in that corridor.

You can't get a class B clearance outside the class B. Changing the
class B limits actually has a bit more of a sham procedure the FAA
must go through. Issuing random TFR restictions like this can be
done on a mere whim.
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Old October 15th 06, 01:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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Default AS/MEL now need ATC permission over East River

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:58:18 -0400, Ron Natalie wrote:

You can't get a class B clearance outside the class B. Changing the class
B limits actually has a bit more of a sham procedure the FAA must go
through. Issuing random TFR restictions like this can be done on a mere
whim.


The TFR also permits the rotary exception.

Discrimination against the fixer-wingers, if you ask me. All because we
can't hover w/o a helping headwind.

- Andrew

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Old October 14th 06, 02:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
me[_1_]
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Default AS/MEL now need ATC permission over East River

I also agree that it seems reasonable and makes sense considering the
difficulty of that airspace and the turn around.

Now if this type of solution could have been the focus of all the countless
blabbering media and politicians... But that would just make to much sense..




"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. ..
!FDC 6/3495 ZNY EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, VFR
FLIGHT OPERATIONS INVOLVING FIXED WING AIRCRAFT (EXCLUDING AMPHIBIOUS
FIXED WING AIRCRAFT LANDING OR DEPARTING NEW YORK SKYPORTS INC
SEAPLANE BASE) IN THE EAST RIVER CLASS B EXCLUSION AREA EXTENDING
FROM THE SOUTHWESTERN TIP OF GOVERNORS ISLAND TO THE NORTH TIP OF
ROOSEVELT ISLAND, ARE PROHIBITED UNLESS AUTHORIZED AND BEING
CONTROLLED BY ATC. TO OBTAIN AUTHORIZATION CONTACT LGA ATCT SOUTH OF
GOVERNORS ISLAND ON 126.05.

Also NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nyre...rtner=homepage

--Gary




 




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