Negative GA on Diane Rehms Show

They'd rather be sensational than right.


We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde who
comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam
in her eye
It's interesting when people die-
Give us dirty laundry
Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a
running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry
You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're stiff
Kick 'em all around
Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry
We can do "The Innuendo"
We can dance and sing
When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing
We all know that Crap is King
Give us dirty laundry!

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:51:24 -0000, Jim Logajan wrote in :

"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote:

Jim Fallows, a former Cirrus owner and GA pilot with hundreds
of hours of experience, has written a series of excellent
articles on the crash. This article was highlighted in
today's AVWEB newsletter:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200610u/lidle-crash-3

That's a nice article and the New York Times graphic that he links to is a
very nice and succinct summary of the flight.

Here's the NYT graphic Jim is referring to:

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/khtm...H_GRAPHIC.html

It certainly does make this clear.

Marty
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Jim Logajan wrote:
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote:


Jim Fallows, a former Cirrus owner and GA pilot with hundreds
of hours of experience, has written a series of excellent
articles on the crash. This article was highlighted in
today's AVWEB newsletter:

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200610u/lidle-crash-3


That's a nice article and the New York Times graphic that he links to is a
very nice and succinct summary of the flight.

I think this article is also less than accurate, especially the
statements about a stalled airplane going "straight down." Many
airplanes can be held in a stalled condition at an attitude that is far
from straight down. Even in a spin the airplane is seldom pointing
straight down and many airplanes spin in a fairly flat attitude.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:

I think this article is also less than accurate, especially the
statements about a stalled airplane going "straight down." Many
airplanes can be held in a stalled condition at an attitude that is far
from straight down. Even in a spin the airplane is seldom pointing
straight down and many airplanes spin in a fairly flat attitude.


Matt

A few times during my student days, I'd stall the 152 and hold it there
for a while. It's an interesting way to lose altitude, and you'd
better stay coordinated. But you CAN hold the yoke all the way back
and fly stalled.

wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:

I think this article is also less than accurate, especially the
statements about a stalled airplane going "straight down." Many
airplanes can be held in a stalled condition at an attitude that is far
from straight down. Even in a spin the airplane is seldom pointing
straight down and many airplanes spin in a fairly flat attitude.


Matt

A few times during my student days, I'd stall the 152 and hold it there
for a while. It's an interesting way to lose altitude, and you'd
better stay coordinated. But you CAN hold the yoke all the way back
and fly stalled.

You can kick the rudder hard and spin it to lose altitude without
picking up a lot of airspeed as well :-)

wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:


I think this article is also less than accurate, especially the
statements about a stalled airplane going "straight down." Many
airplanes can be held in a stalled condition at an attitude that is far
from straight down. Even in a spin the airplane is seldom pointing
straight down and many airplanes spin in a fairly flat attitude.


Matt


A few times during my student days, I'd stall the 152 and hold it there
for a while. It's an interesting way to lose altitude, and you'd
better stay coordinated. But you CAN hold the yoke all the way back
and fly stalled.


True, and you don't go "straight down."


Matt