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Old October 26th 06, 02:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
B A R R Y[_2_]
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Peter R. wrote:
Jim Macklin wrote:

If you get a travelogue, show your wife. If you get a
training video, it is for PILOTS and not their spouse.


I was thinking the same thing.



This is the same reason that talking about upset recovery and emergency
procedures training is best left to pilots, not passengers.
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Old October 26th 06, 11:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Jim Macklin wrote:
Before showing BEHIND THE GREEN DOOR or DEBBIE DOES DALLAS
to your wife, mother-in-law and the children, you preview
them privately.

If you get a travelogue, show your wife. If you get a
training video, it is for PILOTS and not their spouse.


My thoughts exactly. The OP erred by not screening the DVD before
showing it to non-pilots. Collins generally writes and presents to
pilots, not to the general public. I think his statements are very
appropriate for the intended audience.


Matt
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Old October 26th 06, 03:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Kobra wrote:

Now I'm not asking anyone to blow sunshine up my a$$, but there's a way to
make your point without scaring the crap out of their audience. And writers
have to understand that pilots aren't the only ones watching these DVD's.
Our spouses, children, family, friends and a very apprehensive general
public is too.


As others state, why did you share it in the first place?

Also, sounds like the issues about your flying and how your family views
it goes beyond the planning of this particular trip.
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Old October 26th 06, 04:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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As others state, why did you share it in the first place?


My wife loves flying with me and she sees a trip in the airplane as a major
treat. We have flown together everywhere from Maine to the Bahamas. She is
also going to start lessons this Spring and she began the Cleared for
Takeoff CD ground school course.

Whenever I buy a training DVD, as dry as they can be, she is excited to
watch them with me. I am lucky this way. But my only point to Mr. Collins
is that if you are going to immortalize your words on mass media about an
important subject near and dear, for God's sake, MAKE YOUR POINT, BUT CHOOSE
YOUR WORDS WITH SOME FORETHOUGHT.

Does anyone disagree that there's a better way to say, ...*ONE LITTLE
MISTAKE WILL PUT ALL YOUR LIGHTS OUT?* I don't think Barry Schiff, Rod
Machado or John King would blunder their words like that. I sense they have
more discretion and sophistication.

Don't get me wrong...I do like and respect Mr. Collins. I have most of his
videos, I read his articles in Flying Magazine and I admire him as an
aviator. I just think he needs to sand and polish some of his writings
before he commits them to permanency.

Kobra



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Old October 26th 06, 05:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Kobra wrote:

Does anyone disagree that there's a better way to say, ...*ONE LITTLE
MISTAKE WILL PUT ALL YOUR LIGHTS OUT?* I don't think Barry Schiff, Rod
Machado or John King would blunder their words like that. I sense they have
more discretion and sophistication.


Rod Machado and John King would have probably stated, "One little mistake
and your whole day would be ruined," or "One little mistake and you would
end up having a very bad day." Similar in style to the quote you posted,
IMO.


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Peter
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Old October 26th 06, 06:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Rod Machado and John King would have probably stated, "One little mistake
and your whole day would be ruined," or "One little mistake and you would
end up having a very bad day." Similar in style to the quote you posted,
IMO.


Exactly! That would have made the point, added humor and not been abrasive.

Kobra


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Old October 26th 06, 11:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Kobra wrote:

Rod Machado and John King would have probably stated, "One little mistake
and your whole day would be ruined," or "One little mistake and you would
end up having a very bad day." Similar in style to the quote you posted,
IMO.



Exactly! That would have made the point, added humor and not been abrasive.


You are just too thin-skinned. Flying in that terrain and those
conditions isn't for the timid. Buck up!

Matt
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Old October 26th 06, 10:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Peter R." wrote:

Kobra wrote:

Does anyone disagree that there's a better way to say, ...*ONE LITTLE
MISTAKE WILL PUT ALL YOUR LIGHTS OUT?* I don't think Barry Schiff, Rod
Machado or John King would blunder their words like that. I sense they have
more discretion and sophistication.


Rod Machado and John King would have probably stated, "One little mistake
and your whole day would be ruined," or "One little mistake and you would
end up having a very bad day." Similar in style to the quote you posted,
IMO.


I prefer "This is where a serious mistake can get you killed....so
treat it with the respect it deserves."

Ron Lee
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Old October 26th 06, 10:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Ron Lee wrote:
"Peter R." wrote:


Kobra wrote:


Does anyone disagree that there's a better way to say, ...*ONE LITTLE
MISTAKE WILL PUT ALL YOUR LIGHTS OUT?* I don't think Barry Schiff, Rod
Machado or John King would blunder their words like that. I sense they have
more discretion and sophistication.


Rod Machado and John King would have probably stated, "One little mistake
and your whole day would be ruined," or "One little mistake and you would
end up having a very bad day." Similar in style to the quote you posted,
IMO.



I prefer "This is where a serious mistake can get you killed....so
treat it with the respect it deserves."


I like that better, too. Apparently the majority think Collins' words
are just fine. I'm with kobra, and I'll avoid that DVD. My wife has
enough aerophobia as it is, without her stumbling on something like that.

Dave
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Old October 27th 06, 08:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Ron Lee wrote:

I prefer "This is where a serious mistake can get you killed....so
treat it with the respect it deserves."


I realize that, but in watching RM and JK lead the numerous lessons on
those private and instrument CD-ROM based ground school programs, it was
apparent that they were purposely avoiding the use of stronger, direct
words.


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Peter
 




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