Breaking a plane

I have been flying 23 years and so far not a single ding on anything..
Of course I do fly the "beast"and the day is still young.. G

Ben
www.haaspowerair.com
cpw wrote:
One of my partners in our 1974 Citabria bounced a landing and had a
prop strike. We are rebuilding the engine and buying a new prop, of
course, but he feels awful about it. This has caused me to speculate;
how many long time pilots have flown without ever damaging an aircraft?
I'm not asking about wear and tear, but actual incidents resulting in
damage. Is it common or unusual?
CPW

I've had two incidents in 30 years.
--
Gene Seibel
Tales of Flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.


cpw wrote:
One of my partners in our 1974 Citabria bounced a landing and had a
prop strike. We are rebuilding the engine and buying a new prop, of
course, but he feels awful about it. This has caused me to speculate;
how many long time pilots have flown without ever damaging an aircraft?
I'm not asking about wear and tear, but actual incidents resulting in
damage. Is it common or unusual?
CPW

On 27 Oct 2006 03:37:37 -0700, "cpw" wrote:

One of my partners in our 1974 Citabria bounced a landing and had a
prop strike. We are rebuilding the engine and buying a new prop, of
course, but he feels awful about it. This has caused me to speculate;
how many long time pilots have flown without ever damaging an aircraft?

"It ain't the years...it's the mileage."

36 years of flying, ~20+ years of ownership, nothing to speak of (yet) but my
total time isn't all that high. We've got a guy in my EAA chapter who has
crashed four times in 50 years...three due to mechanical problems (including a
case of jammed controls) and once when landing in unexpectedly-deep snow.

Ron Wanttaja

cpw wrote:
One of my partners in our 1974 Citabria bounced a landing and had a
prop strike. We are rebuilding the engine and buying a new prop, of
course, but he feels awful about it. This has caused me to speculate;
how many long time pilots have flown without ever damaging an aircraft?
I'm not asking about wear and tear, but actual incidents resulting in
damage. Is it common or unusual?
CPW

I've never had an accident like you described but I've hit the wing on
a couple of occasions. Once in a vary narrow field in Mexico trying to
turn a Mooney (very, very low wing) around at the end of the runway.
Once while turning in a 172 hitting my own car window with the wing tip
(while a pilot friend of mine was standing there spotting me).
I watched my plane get crushed by a big truck backing into it, not sure
if that counts though.

-Robert

"cpw" wrote in message
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One of my partners in our 1974 Citabria bounced a landing and had a
prop strike. We are rebuilding the engine and buying a new prop, of
course, but he feels awful about it. This has caused me to speculate;
how many long time pilots have flown without ever damaging an aircraft?
I'm not asking about wear and tear, but actual incidents resulting in
damage. Is it common or unusual?
CPW


I destroyed a C150 on my second solo as a student............

One gyrocopter converted into what could probably best be described as a
modern art sculpture... One Grumman still flying, albeit with minor hangar
rash from its days in a communal hangar...

"cpw" wrote in message
oups.com...
One of my partners in our 1974 Citabria bounced a landing and had a
prop strike. We are rebuilding the engine and buying a new prop, of
course, but he feels awful about it. This has caused me to speculate;
how many long time pilots have flown without ever damaging an aircraft?
I'm not asking about wear and tear, but actual incidents resulting in
damage. Is it common or unusual?
CPW


Let's see,
6300+ Logged PIC from Quickie to LR24
2000+ dual given
1100+ Military crew
35 years, 30 as CFI, II, MI
Taildragger/Basic acro 200 hr
7 engine fails on 6 a/c, all landed on paved runways

Never had a ding, dent, damage, incident, so far...


Al G

"Al G" wrote in message
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"cpw" wrote in message
oups.com...
One of my partners in our 1974 Citabria bounced a landing and had a
prop strike. We are rebuilding the engine and buying a new prop, of
course, but he feels awful about it. This has caused me to speculate;
how many long time pilots have flown without ever damaging an aircraft?
I'm not asking about wear and tear, but actual incidents resulting in
damage. Is it common or unusual?
CPW


Let's see,
6300+ Logged PIC from Quickie to LR24
2000+ dual given
1100+ Military crew
35 years, 30 as CFI, II, MI
Taildragger/Basic acro 200 hr
7 engine fails on 6 a/c, all landed on paved runways

Never had a ding, dent, damage, incident, so far...


Al G

Oops, I did have this little hang glider schmuck. Does that count?

Al G

Al G
Oops, I did have this little hang glider schmuck. Does that count?

Hand glider don't count they are a vehicle.

I see a lot of incidents and accidents because of the line of work I am
in. Is there a pattern leading up to them? Yes, it has to do with
ones ability and decision-making.

The FAA pushed recurrent training through the wings program and when
incidents or accident happen the FAA will want to know if the pilot
attend any wings training in the last three years. Most who have
problems have not attended any training and don't seem to fly often
enough to stay sharp on emergency procedures.

Having incident or accident does not make you a bad pilot. There are a
lot of factors that lead up to an incident/accident. Strangely as it
seems when something does go wrong and the FAA looks at the pilot and
aircraft records there seems to be a tail tail sign of something going
wrong.

Having lots of hours such as a airline captain does not guarantee your
won't have a problem in a GA aircraft, it happens all to often. I
don't have an answer to the problem other that it does and will
happen to each of us. It is a risk we assume each time we climb in the
seat, but we can cut the risk with additional training and talking
about it such as on the forum.

Stache