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Old October 31st 06, 09:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Skunk" wrote in message
. ..

Is it me or is the FAA about one incident away from a disaster worse than
Lexington?


It's you.



http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/31/mis....ap/index.html

Notice the number of passengers on board

Now look what happens when you land or take off on the wrong runway or use
a taxi way

You hit **** sometimes

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/sq006/photo.shtml

Where was ATCT?


Due north of terminal A, where it always is.



How can the tower not see a jet is lined up for a taxiway landing?


By not being in a position to see it.



I wonder if all the experienced white males over 40 have been run off from
this location also by the Anti-White male racist FAA???


Where did you get the idea that landing aircraft are remotely controlled
from the control tower?


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Old October 31st 06, 09:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
tscottme
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
.net...

"Skunk" wrote in message
. ..

Is it me or is the FAA about one incident away from a disaster worse than
Lexington?


It's you.


Subscribe. "We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you."

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Old November 1st 06, 12:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Bob Noel
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In article ,
Skunk spewed nonsense

*plonk*

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Old November 1st 06, 01:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Judah
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Skunk wrote in news:UeO1h.19717$kI6.17626
@bignews4.bellsouth.net:

Is it me or is the FAA about one incident away from a
disaster worse than Lexington?


This is very similar to the Lexington accident. They were both caused by
pilot error.

The only difference was that in Lexington, the FAA had a completely separate
issue that people tried to scapegoat as the cause of the accident.

The same does not apply here. This incident can only be blamed on the pilots
who made the mistake.

Perhaps if there were a second controller in Lexington, this incident could
have been prevented as well.
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Old November 1st 06, 02:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Skunk
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Judah wrote:
Skunk wrote in news:UeO1h.19717$kI6.17626
@bignews4.bellsouth.net:


Is it me or is the FAA about one incident away from a
disaster worse than Lexington?



This is very similar to the Lexington accident. They were both caused by
pilot error.

The only difference was that in Lexington, the FAA had a completely separate
issue that people tried to scapegoat as the cause of the accident.

The same does not apply here. This incident can only be blamed on the pilots
who made the mistake.

Perhaps if there were a second controller in Lexington, this incident could
have been prevented as well.


And the chaos in Newark continues. Remember, it's all the
pilots fault. The FAA has nothing to do with anything
anywhere. We could never blame the "Guvment" for anything
could we???

NEWARK, New Jersey (CNN) -- Two commercial planes bumped
into each other Tuesday on a Newark International Airport
runway, delaying hundreds of passengers on a trans-Atlantic
flight.

Lufthansa flight LH403, headed to Frankfurt, Germany, bumped
into another plane, said Lufthansa spokeswoman Jennifer
Urbaniak. A wing on the Lufthansa Boeing 747 was damaged,
she said.

In a statement, Lufthansa said there were 291 passengers,
three infants and 17 crew members on board. No injuries were
reported.

The second plane was an empty Continental Airlines Boeing
757, which was being relocated to a remote overnight parking
spot "and was in a stationary position" when the contact
occurred, the airline said in a statement.

It "was apparently brushed by a taxiing Lufthansa 747
aircraft," Continental said. "It appears that the 747's left
wing brushed the 757's right wing."

The Lufthansa flight was canceled, said Alan Hicks,
spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.
He added the Federal Aviation Administration will investigate.
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Old November 1st 06, 04:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
David Cartwright
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"Skunk" wrote in message
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NEWARK, New Jersey (CNN) -- Two commercial planes bumped into each other
Tuesday on a Newark International Airport runway, delaying hundreds of
passengers on a trans-Atlantic flight.


And your point is ...?

There will be an accident investigation, and the reason will be found. Maybe
the stationary aircraft was in the wrong place, maybe the moving one was
going the wrong way, maybe they were both doing the right thing but the
moving one thought the gap was bigger than it was, or maybe delinquent
squirrels came out at night and repainted the taxiway lines ten feet to the
left. It'll all come out in the investigation, and fault will be attributed
approriately.

D.


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Old November 1st 06, 05:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Mark Hansen
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On 11/01/06 08:40, David Cartwright wrote:
"Skunk" wrote in message
.. .
NEWARK, New Jersey (CNN) -- Two commercial planes bumped into each other
Tuesday on a Newark International Airport runway, delaying hundreds of
passengers on a trans-Atlantic flight.


And your point is ...?

There will be an accident investigation, and the reason will be found. Maybe
the stationary aircraft was in the wrong place, maybe the moving one was
going the wrong way, maybe they were both doing the right thing but the
moving one thought the gap was bigger than it was, or maybe delinquent
squirrels came out at night and repainted the taxiway lines ten feet to the
left. It'll all come out in the investigation, and fault will be attributed
approriately.


And hopefully we'll finally be able to nail those damn squirrels!

;-)

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Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA
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Old November 2nd 06, 02:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Judah
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Skunk wrote in
:

And the chaos in Newark continues. Remember, it's all the
pilots fault. The FAA has nothing to do with anything
anywhere. We could never blame the "Guvment" for anything
could we???


Please explain who exactly at the FAA was responsible for this accident?

Oh, perhaps if there were a 24th person in the tower cab, whose sole
responsibility would have been staring out the window, he might have been
able to see from 3 miles away that the Lufthansa flight was 6 inches past its
hold short line and prevented this accident.

Oh I know. Perhaps if there were 5,000 FAA controllers in the Tower Cab, they
could each be assigned a plane to watch at all times so that the pilots can
just sleep their way through the flight.

Give me a f^&*ing break.
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Old November 2nd 06, 12:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
B A R R Y[_2_]
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Judah wrote:

Oh I know. Perhaps if there were 5,000 FAA controllers in the Tower Cab, they
could each be assigned a plane to watch at all times so that the pilots can
just sleep their way through the flight.


How about guys in pink shirts standing next to the runway?
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Old November 2nd 06, 02:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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B A R R Y wrote:


How about guys in pink shirts standing next to the runway?


In the days before RVR really worked, when the weather was foggy at some
airline airports they had a certified observor standing beside the
runway who provided manually observed RVR readings to the tower via an
interphone link.
 




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