Yak close call

Dave wrote:

Newps wrote:

Kingfish wrote:


2. Whaddya think would happen if is insurance agent saw that clip?

Nothing. There wasn't a loss.


He was awful close to a prop strike - at the very least.



He was awfully close to death but that's not relavant as far as
insurance is concerned.

"Dave" wrote

He was awful close to a prop strike - at the very least. Perhaps it was
intentional - note that he did a roll right after the near miss. I
don't think that anyone who had just had an unintentional near miss
could regain his composure so quickly.

Although he was way too close, there is a possibility that he was not as
close as you think. I saw another performer that looked like he was way too
low, even below the runway.

Is it possible that there is a dip, and the runway is lower than the
surrounding ground?

Still, no loss, no claim, no foul.
--
Jim in NC

Newps wrote:
Kingfish wrote:

2. Whaddya think would happen if is insurance agent saw that clip?

Nothing. There wasn't a loss.

All those sparks and no loss? Its at least a reskin for the belly if
not structural repair and a prop strike.

-Robert

"Dave" wrote in message
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I don't think that anyone who had just had an unintentional near miss
could regain his composure so quickly.

Does the canopy open partway in flight? Maybe he was draining the cockpit.
I'd have had the urge.

-c

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Dave" wrote

He was awful close to a prop strike - at the very least. Perhaps it was
intentional - note that he did a roll right after the near miss. I
don't think that anyone who had just had an unintentional near miss
could regain his composure so quickly.

Although he was way too close, there is a possibility that he was not as
close as you think. I saw another performer that looked like he was way
too low, even below the runway.

Is it possible that there is a dip, and the runway is lower than the
surrounding ground?

Still, no loss, no claim, no foul.
--
Jim in NC

No, that was close Jim. In fact, you don't get closer than that and fly out
of it. In any low altitude vertical recovery, you only have X amount of
radial g to play against Y amount of remaining air under the airplane. At
the top gate apex, you need the exact airspeed through the gate that has
been predermined against the gate altitude AGL to produce the downline
within that available radial g. If you are slow inverted through the gate at
your apex, you can generate nose rate which puts you mushing through with a
vertical component you definitely don't want. If you are fast through the
gate, you get an extended arc on your downline pull that can easily kill you
at the bottom.
This guy looked slow through the apex pull which was real bad. He added to
the problem with a quarter roll on his downline to his exit heading. Going
through a vertical downline in a low altitude vertical recovery will nail
you every time. As he finished the quarter roll, he was running out of air
and radial g at the same time. Past a certain point, you enter mush as you
climb the angle of attack curve.
This guy was one lucky SOB! In the Yak, as in the Mustang, when you get it
THAT low during a pull, you have a forward ground visual cue that is far
enough ahead of the aircraft you can easily miss exactly how low you
actually are to the ground.
I'd be willing to bet two things on this one with a real good chance of
winning. First, that during the pull through his low apex he didn't actually
realize how low he was, and secondly, that had he been checking his
peripheral cues at the lower corners of the windshield through the low apex,
he would have soiled his drawers :-)
I'm glad he made it. You don't get many second chances in the low altitude
acro business!
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote:
I'd be willing to bet two things on this one with a real good chance of
winning. First, that during the pull through his low apex he didn't actually
realize how low he was, and secondly, that had he been checking his
peripheral cues at the lower corners of the windshield through the low apex,
he would have soiled his drawers :-)
I'm glad he made it. You don't get many second chances in the low altitude
acro business!

He tied the world record for low altitude flight. Not many of us can
make that claim.

-Robert

Twas a squeaker for sure!! :-))
DH


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
I'd be willing to bet two things on this one with a real good chance of
winning. First, that during the pull through his low apex he didn't
actually
realize how low he was, and secondly, that had he been checking his
peripheral cues at the lower corners of the windshield through the low
apex,
he would have soiled his drawers :-)
I'm glad he made it. You don't get many second chances in the low
altitude
acro business!

He tied the world record for low altitude flight. Not many of us can
make that claim.

-Robert

"gatt" wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2PvcG4Vmyw



Something about it looks fake to me. There seems to be an abnormal
dip in the flight path right behind an aircraft.

Ron Lee

Ron Lee wrote:

Something about it looks fake to me. There seems to be an abnormal
dip in the flight path right behind an aircraft.

Ron Lee
Yeah, I'm not sold on this one either Ron.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane

"To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become
a private pilot you must strive to master four of them"
- Rod Machado

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If it's a fake, it's damn good work. I've seen it a dozen times. The
perspective is right; the time vs distance from the top apex to the exit is
right for the Yak being flown at airshow GW; the roll rate is perfect both
on the vertical recovery line and on the exit slow roll, and even the
Doppler effect is perfect accompanying what to my ear is a perfect sound for
the expected engine MP and prop RPM combination all through the clip. That
little "dip" near the ground wouldn't be all that out of place. The
elevators on that crate are very sensitive.
Could be.........but I for one will be mighty surprised if it is :-)) If
someone proves it a fake, I'll be the first in line to say it fooled the
living hell out of me :-))
Dudley Henriques

"Jack Allison" wrote in message
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Ron Lee wrote:

Something about it looks fake to me. There seems to be an abnormal
dip in the flight path right behind an aircraft.

Ron Lee
Yeah, I'm not sold on this one either Ron.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane

"To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become
a private pilot you must strive to master four of them"
- Rod Machado

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