1800 Gallons of De-icing fluid...

Would it not be more economical to move the airplane in a large heated
hangar? I realize this may not be practical at major airports.

According to my friend, airliners never see the inside of a hangar
except during maintenance.
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Jay Honeck writes:

And, since this isn't being done at a major airport (which would have
deicing stations to catch all that stuff), there is no recycling of
that fluid. It just goes away...all $3600+ worth of it.

What does deicing fluid contain?

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Mxsmanic wrote: brevity snip

What does deicing fluid contain?

Whatever you do, never Google, especially for "aircraft deicing fluid".

Dog only knows what the **** could happen if Google detected your IP.

Has anybody ever suggested that you're a moron?
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("gpsman" wrote)
Whatever you do, never Google, especially for "aircraft deicing fluid".

First hit:
http://www.dow.com/propyleneglycol/app/deicing.htm
"aircraft deicing fluid"

"For additional Information visit the Aircraft Deicing Fluids Web Site."

So I did...

WOW, I never knew!!!

(http://www.dow.com/aircraft/
"Dow offers PG-based Type IV fluid for the 2006-07 season."

What does deicing fluid contain?

Horrified to report:
(P)ink (G)irl - based Type (4) year old, is what I came up with from their
main page photo.


Montblack
"Soylent Green is people!"

Recently, Jay Honeck posted:

My A&P mechanic works a day job, in addition to doing small-plane
maintenance. He is in charge of local maintenance on DC-9s that fly
for a major freight hauler.

Our part of the world got hit with a pretty decent winter storm over
the weekend, which resulted in "his" DC-9 being coated with over 1/4"
of ice before it started to snow. In order to remove that ice before
departing, they had to spray over 1,800 gallons of deicing fluid on
that single DC-9.

And, since this isn't being done at a major airport (which would have
deicing stations to catch all that stuff), there is no recycling of
that fluid. It just goes away...all $3600+ worth of it.

One could only wish that it would "go away". Unfortunately, it's being
stored for some future generation to deal with.

Neil

wrote:
Hmmmm,,, Type 1 deice fluid costs are about 11. bucks a gallon, thats
the applied price to planes here at Jackson Hole Wy. He got off REAL
cheap if the bill was 3600 bucks. His bill here would have been
20,250.00 or more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ dollars, And,, if not recycled
thats alot of stuff going into the surrounding soil... Per Plane
!!!!!!!!!!! YUCK.

I'm not sure how deice fluid would be recycled, the airport I worked at
had a glycol trap on the main ramp that was routed to the sewer during
the winter, then during the summer the valve was set to drain
(rainwater) to the adjacent marsh.

If I remember correctly the new DIA airport has a state of the art
recycle system for deice fluid. As I understand it the area where they
deice is a very large tapered bowl, kinda like the floor in your
shower, all excess stuff makes its way back into a sump underground,
then its pumped to a series of filters and separators, that fluid is
then recharged with new glycol to bring it back up to specs. It
supposably is able to reduce the need for new stuff by over 60%. But
then, this is the airport that spent hundreds of millions on a "state
of the art" baggage handling system that turned out to be the biggest
failure is dollars next to the "big dig" in Boston.

For the other poster that wanted to know the amount of deice activity
at KJAC, last year they went through over 200,000 gallons of fluid for
all activity, GA,majors, yada yada yada.... I live just a few hunderd
yards from the airport and I LOVE aviation but lately whenever I drink
some water I wonder what the implications of this stuff is as it
travels through the aquifer and into my well..

Ben
Kingfish wrote:
wrote:
Hmmmm,,, Type 1 deice fluid costs are about 11. bucks a gallon, thats
the applied price to planes here at Jackson Hole Wy. He got off REAL
cheap if the bill was 3600 bucks. His bill here would have been
20,250.00 or more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ dollars, And,, if not recycled
thats alot of stuff going into the surrounding soil... Per Plane
!!!!!!!!!!! YUCK.

I'm not sure how deice fluid would be recycled, the airport I worked at
had a glycol trap on the main ramp that was routed to the sewer during
the winter, then during the summer the valve was set to drain
(rainwater) to the adjacent marsh.

wrote:
If I remember correctly the new DIA airport has a state of the art
recycle system for deice fluid. As I understand it the area where they
deice is a very large tapered bowl, kinda like the floor in your
shower, all excess stuff makes its way back into a sump underground,
then its pumped to a series of filters and separators, that fluid is
then recharged with new glycol to bring it back up to specs. It
supposably is able to reduce the need for new stuff by over 60%. But
then, this is the airport that spent hundreds of millions on a "state
of the art" baggage handling system that turned out to be the biggest
failure is dollars next to the "big dig" in Boston.


Good info there, Ben. I guess it makes sense to have such a system at
Denver as they probably use more glycol that any other US airfield. And
yes, it probably cost 10x more than it should have... Tax dollars hard
at work here rolls eyes

wrote)
For the other poster that wanted to know the amount of deice activity at
KJAC, last year they went through over 200,000 gallons of fluid for all
activity, GA,majors, yada yada yada....


Wow, $2.2 million ....@ $11/gallon.

Hmm? Large folding 'portable hangar' vehicle. Maybe two.


Good for the environment.
Good for Montblack

Hmm? Large folding 'portable hangar' vehicle. Maybe two.

When we can get T-hangars at the local airport. Maybe then.

Jose
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