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Old January 21st 07, 11:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
george
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Steve Foley writes:

I still can't see how anybody can gather enough information from a news
article to determine that this event has anything to do with a first class
medical.


The idea of a first-class medical is that it prevents the kind of
event that makes a pilot too ill to fly the plane.

Crap.
Are you claiming that a medical examination is going to prevent a
stroke or a coronary event?
Or any of the different forms of shock or food or other poisoning
If so I have this bridge you might be interested in...

Its time you got into a real aeroplane and began to learn how to fly

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Old January 21st 07, 11:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans
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"george" wrote

Crap.
Are you claiming that a medical examination is going to prevent a
stroke or a coronary event?
Or any of the different forms of shock or food or other poisoning
If so I have this bridge you might be interested in...


Com'on, people!

You're playing into his hands-playing his game.
--
Jim in NC
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Old January 22nd 07, 01:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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The idea of a first-class medical is that it prevents the kind of
event that makes a pilot too ill to fly the plane.

The reasoning and criteria for medical certification can be found on the FAA
website at no cost to you, either real or simulated. In addition, the
equivalent for the European Union is sure to be available in like manner.

Go, read up, become a simulated medical examiner, and report back.


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Old January 22nd 07, 01:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kev
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Steve Foley writes:

I still can't see how anybody can gather enough information from a news
article to determine that this event has anything to do with a first class
medical.


The idea of a first-class medical is that it prevents the kind of
event that makes a pilot too ill to fly the plane.


Prevent, no. Nothing can do that. Weed out those with obvious or
potential problems, yes, hopefully.

Bad timing, however, what with the retirement age limit up in the air.

Kev

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Old January 22nd 07, 02:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary[_2_]
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Are you claiming that a medical examination is going to prevent a
stroke or a coronary event?
Or any of the different forms of shock or food or other poisoning
If so I have this bridge you might be interested in...

Its time you got into a real aeroplane and began to learn how to fly


No need to bring reality into this. MX has spent hundreds of hours
with his medical simulator, and it's 100% accurate. If the simulator
doesn't tell you otherwise, the pilot is good to go...


....but if you get a little sloppy removing the funny bone, the buzzer
goes off and the nose lights up! Sure signs of a failed medical.

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Old January 22nd 07, 02:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary[_2_]
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Are you claiming that a medical examination is going to prevent a
stroke or a coronary event?
Or any of the different forms of shock or food or other poisoning
If so I have this bridge you might be interested in...

Its time you got into a real aeroplane and began to learn how to fly


No need to bring reality into this. MX has spent hundreds of hours
with his medical simulator, and it's 100% accurate. If the simulator
doesn't tell you otherwise, the pilot is good to go...


....but if you get a little sloppy removing the funny bone, the buzzer
goes off and the nose lights up! Sure signs of a failed medical.

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Old January 22nd 07, 02:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
george
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Gary wrote:

Are you claiming that a medical examination is going to prevent a
stroke or a coronary event?
Or any of the different forms of shock or food or other poisoning
If so I have this bridge you might be interested in...

Its time you got into a real aeroplane and began to learn how to fly


No need to bring reality into this. MX has spent hundreds of hours
with his medical simulator, and it's 100% accurate. If the simulator
doesn't tell you otherwise, the pilot is good to go...


...but if you get a little sloppy removing the funny bone, the buzzer
goes off and the nose lights up! Sure signs of a failed medical.


ROTFL you owe mw a keyboard

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Old January 22nd 07, 02:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Judah
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/01/20....ap/index.html

So much for first-class medicals.


http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/9/operation-game.jpg
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Old January 22nd 07, 06:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
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Steve Foley wrote:
Yes, that is correct. To exercise ATP privelages one must have a 1sst
class med. A 2nd class is required to exercise commercial privelages
(e.g. non-ATP). Most airlines require both Capt. and FO to have 1st
class meds though.


I can picture the FAA putting the FO through the wringer because he
exercised ATP privileges (landing the plane safely) without a valid first
class medical.



Huh? I have a buddy who's going through the upgrade program right now at Mesa.
He's been flying for quite some time for them with a commercial license and a
first class physical as a FO. When he passes his checkride, he'll be upgraded
to captain as well as get his ATP with a ERJ type rating.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com


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Old January 22nd 07, 06:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Richard
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Steve Foley writes:

I still can't see how anybody can gather enough information from a news
article to determine that this event has anything to do with a first
class
medical.


The idea of a first-class medical is that it prevents the kind of
event that makes a pilot too ill to fly the plane.

A first-class medical is basically a visual check. The next step, to be more
thorough, would be an autopsy. I'd recomend you having one.


 




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