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Old February 2nd 07, 11:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tony
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She got control of an airplane that sounded like it was a flying ice
cube in IMC -- I hope I can do as well in similiar circumstances.

I'll delete the bulk of my comment about an irritated hemorhoid being
able to type.

On Feb 2, 4:51 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
This is the audio tape of a Fed Ex Caravan pilot who tangled with some
severe icing conditions.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...-26_N1278L-May...

(It's a good-sized .mp3 file, so be patient while it downloads...)

This was given to me by our local FAA safety guy, to share with our
airport user's group. The stark terror in her voice is chilling, and
really points out how quickly things can go bad.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old February 3rd 07, 05:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Tony" wrote)
She got control of an airplane that sounded like it was a flying ice cube
in IMC -- I hope I can do as well in similiar circumstances.



It sounded like she got the hell scarred out of her. Autopilot issue? Ice?
Upper level wind sheer? Caravan icing issues? Two of the four? Even one of
the four...

She fought for control, maintained the altitude where she regained control,
disengaged the auto-pilot, quickly ran through dozens of (off radio) checks,
activated boots and heat, then descended below the freezing level.

It sounded to me like she was using 20% of her mental capacity to
communicate with ATC, while the other 80% was still darting about, searching
for answers - or making sure all was well.

Great job! Based on what I heard, I'd fly with her.


Montblack



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Old February 3rd 07, 06:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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She got control of an airplane that sounded like it was a flying ice
cube
in IMC -- I hope I can do as well in similiar circumstances.



It sounded like she got the hell scarred out of her. Autopilot issue? Ice?
Upper level wind sheer? Caravan icing issues? Two of the four? Even one of
the four...

She fought for control, maintained the altitude where she regained

control,
disengaged the auto-pilot, quickly ran through dozens of (off radio)

checks,
activated boots and heat, then descended below the freezing level.

It sounded to me like she was using 20% of her mental capacity to
communicate with ATC, while the other 80% was still darting about,

searching
for answers - or making sure all was well.

Great job! Based on what I heard, I'd fly with her.


Same here.

Knowing when it's over isn't necessarily easy,
but she managed to do that as well.

Peter


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Old February 3rd 07, 12:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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On 2/2/2007 4:51:44 PM, "Jay Honeck" wrote:

This is the audio tape of a Fed Ex Caravan pilot who tangled with some
severe icing conditions.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...78L-Mayday.mp3

(It's a good-sized .mp3 file, so be patient while it downloads...)


Hey, that MP3 sounds very familiar... oh, yeah - Another LiveATC.net member
and I were the ones who compiled the clip for LiveATC.net last year.


--
Peter
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Old February 3rd 07, 04:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Hey, that MP3 sounds very familiar... oh, yeah - Another LiveATC.net member
and I were the ones who compiled the clip for LiveATC.net last year.


It's a small world, in cyberspace.

I often receive "new" videos, submitted for inclusion on our video
webpage, that came straight from my site -- two years ago.

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old February 4th 07, 05:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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On 2/2/2007 11:42:00 PM, "Jay Honeck" wrote:

I often receive "new" videos, submitted for inclusion on our video
webpage, that came straight from my site -- two years ago.


If you could do me a favor and credit LiveATC.net for the clip since that is
where the clip originated, I would appreciate it. As you may be aware,
LiveATC.net is a not-for-profit site made up of aviation and ATC fans and the
site could always use a good plug.

The botched Oshkosh arrival from the inept pilot clip also originated from
there, but I don't know if you have it on your site. That one, which is one I
compiled from archived ATC clips, also made its rounds on several websites
without any credit.




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Old February 4th 07, 08:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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If you could do me a favor and credit LiveATC.net for the clip since that is
where the clip originated, I would appreciate it.


Will do.

The botched Oshkosh arrival from the inept pilot clip also originated from
there, but I don't know if you have it on your site. That one, which is one I
compiled from archived ATC clips, also made its rounds on several websites
without any credit.


No, I have never included that one on the page, for fear of
embarrassing the guy to death. I figured I'd let a year or so pass,
and then add it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old February 5th 07, 01:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
"Peter R." wrote:

The botched Oshkosh arrival from the inept pilot clip also originated from
there, but I don't know if you have it on your site. That one, which is one I
compiled from archived ATC clips, also made its rounds on several websites
without any credit.


Peter, thanks for hosting LiveATC.
Along the lines of Oshkosh, could you possibly add the FISKE frequency
to the AirVenture 2007 feed? Also, it would prove entertaining to hear
the conversations in the holding patterns following last year's fiasco.
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Old February 5th 07, 01:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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On 2/4/2007 8:13:46 PM, john smith wrote:

Peter, thanks for hosting LiveATC.


John, LiveATC is not my brainchild. David Pascoe is the owner, operator, and
number one volunteer for that site. I am but one of many regional volunteers
who feeds my local airport's frequencies to LiveATC via my scanner, computer,
and always-on Internet connection.

While Dave provides some of the Boston low and high frequencies via his own
hardware, the majority of other feeds are sent to him by regional volunteers
across the US and the world.

Along the lines of Oshkosh, could you possibly add the FISKE frequency
to the AirVenture 2007 feed? Also, it would prove entertaining to hear
the conversations in the holding patterns following last year's fiasco.


The Oshkosh volunteer disappears from LiveATC.net after the event ends, then
resurfaces about a week before AirVenture begins. I will be sure to pass that
request on to him when he does reappear, but often what frequencies you hear
are dependent on the local volunteer's proximity to the various transmitting
towers.

--
Peter
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Old February 3rd 07, 04:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Aluckyguess
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The controller was so relaxed during the whole thing.
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
This is the audio tape of a Fed Ex Caravan pilot who tangled with some
severe icing conditions.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...78L-Mayday.mp3

(It's a good-sized .mp3 file, so be patient while it downloads...)

This was given to me by our local FAA safety guy, to share with our
airport user's group. The stark terror in her voice is chilling, and
really points out how quickly things can go bad.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



 




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