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  #11  
Old February 27th 07, 01:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Chas[_2_]
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"Dallas" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:03:54 -0500, Chas wrote:

Just diagnosed with stage I breast cancer, mastectomy next week.


Sorry to hear that.

As a very simple answer, the whole FAA medical system is based on
incapacitation. If any part of your treatment or condition could lead to
any form of incapacitation you'll have an uphill battle with them until
you
are finished with the treatment and can provide proof that you are in the
clear.

I assume you've read this?
http://www.aopa.org/members/pic/medi...er/breast.html

BTW the AOPA Medical folks are a great resource.

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Dallas


Thanks, I have indeed and have already gathered all records, except one
key test. Others will follow the surgery and what ever systemic treatment
is prescribed. Likely I'll have a better maintenance log on me than on the
rentals I fly.



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Old February 27th 07, 02:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Chas[_2_]
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Thanks for the cite. I hadn't gone to the FAR's yet. At first read it
appears that a) I'm grounded from my SEL activities and b) my pursuit of a
glider rating this spring may also be on hold although the wording in 61.53b
is a lawyers delight.

Definitive thing is get cured and that is of course my focus. Consideration
of FAA view is however a welcome distraction.

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
Your current medical is invalid until your treating doctor
fully releases you and you are not on any medication the FAA
finds disqualifying.
Home Page Executive Branch Code of Federal Regulations
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Title 14: Aeronautics and Space
PART 61-CERTIFICATION: PILOTS, FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS, AND
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§ 61.53 Prohibition on operations during medical
deficiency.
(a) Operations that require a medical certificate. Except as
provided for in paragraph (b) of this section, a person who
holds a current medical certificate issued under part 67 of
this chapter shall not act as pilot in command, or in any
other capacity as a required pilot flight crewmember, while
that person:

(1) Knows or has reason to know of any medical condition
that would make the person unable to meet the requirements
for the medical certificate necessary for the pilot
operation; or

(2) Is taking medication or receiving other treatment for a
medical condition that results in the person being unable to
meet the requirements for the medical certificate necessary
for the pilot operation.

(b) Operations that do not require a medical certificate.
For operations provided for in §61.23(b) of this part, a
person shall not act as pilot in command, or in any other
capacity as a required pilot flight crewmember, while that
person knows or has reason to know of any medical condition
that would make the person unable to operate the aircraft in
a safe manner.

(c) Operations requiring a medical certificate or a U.S.
driver's license. For operations provided for in §61.23(c),
a person must meet the provisions of-

(1) Paragraph (a) of this section if that person holds a
valid medical certificate issued under part 67 of this
chapter and does not hold a current and valid U.S. driver's
license.

(2) Paragraph (b) of this section if that person holds a
current and valid U.S. driver's license.

[Doc. No. 25910, 62 FR 16298, Apr. 4, 1997, as amended by
Amdt. 61-110, 69 FR 44866, July 27, 2004]

"Chas" wrote in message
. ..
| Just diagnosed with stage I breast cancer, mastectomy next
week. Anticipate
| some degree of chemical warfare post operation. Doc says
it may cause hot
| flashes, wife says welcome to her world.
|
| Current medical runs for another 14 months. I will be
talking to the AOPA
| folks but was curious if anyone had comparable experience
and could give me
| view as to hoops, traps, etc that I might anticipate.
|
| thx
|
| chuck
|
|




  #13  
Old February 27th 07, 03:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kev
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On Feb 26, 7:29 pm, "Viperdoc" wrote:
Why did I bother going to medical school and then seven years of residency?
I could have sat on my ass all day surfing the internet and become as smart
(and respected) as MX.


If you have some knowledge to add to the conversation, let's hear it,
please. You won't gain any respect by tossing around null responses
like that one.

Kev

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Old February 27th 07, 04:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I am not looking for respect or affirmation- I get that every day by doing
my job to the best of my abilities.

On the other hand, I will not act professorial or knowledgeable without the
experience or credentials to support those opinions.

Would you accept the medical opinions of individuals because they seemed
nice or perhaps smart? Would you make potentially life altering decisions
based upon the advice of people who talk like they're experts?

If so, you should consider all sources as well as their background before
making such critical decisions. This is not a null response, and has serious
implications.

Why should I, as an experienced physician, flight surgeon, and AME not
respond when MXS makes medical prouncounemts that are ungrounded in fact or
logic (like many of his other posts)? Do you not regard this as relevant to
the thread or to flying in general? Who are you to say that any comment is
not pertinent, particularly when you support the abrasive, condescending,
and arrogant responses by MSX?




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Old February 27th 07, 04:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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TxSrv writes:

A mere MSFS sim pilot is now also a physician and forensic
pathologist. Totally awesome.


Thank you. But it's just a matter of reading.

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Old February 27th 07, 04:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Viperdoc writes:

Who are you to say that any comment is
not pertinent, particularly when you support the abrasive, condescending,
and arrogant responses by MSX?


This made me smile again.

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Old February 27th 07, 05:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kev
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On Feb 26, 11:09 pm, "Viperdoc" wrote:
Why should I, as an experienced physician, flight surgeon, and AME not
respond when MXS makes medical prouncounemts that are ungrounded in
fact or logic (like many of his other posts)?


You absolutely should respond with corrections. But you did not, and
since as a cancer patient I personally didn't see anything that needed
correcting, then I'd of course be sincerely interested in what you
would say.

Do you not regard this as relevant to
the thread or to flying in general? Who are you to say that any comment is
not pertinent, particularly when you support the abrasive, condescending,
and arrogant responses by MSX?


If you communicate in the same manner, then I see no difference
between him and you, except that as a pilot I expect _more_ maturity
from you. Otherwise you make the rest of us look bad.

I also have no idea of your experience level until I hear some non-
trivial responses. My uncle was famous as one of the longest, if not
the longest, continually serving AME's in the country... I think well
over 60 years giving medicals. But he was humble about it. He
didn't beat his chest, he just gave answers.

Regards, Kev

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Old February 27th 07, 05:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Kev writes:

If you communicate in the same manner, then I see no difference
between him and you, except that as a pilot I expect _more_ maturity
from you.


Why would pilots be more mature than other people?

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Old February 27th 07, 05:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Viperdoc" wrote)
Why did I bother going to medical school and then seven years of
residency?



Seven years?

That's a long time till solo... g,d,r


Montblack


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Old February 27th 07, 06:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kev
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On Feb 27, 12:36 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Kev writes:
If you communicate in the same manner, then I see no difference
between him and you, except that as a pilot I expect _more_ maturity
from you.


Why would pilots be more mature than other people?


In short, the discipline required to make it through training. It
takes finding money, working hard, spending actual sweat, even
overcoming primal fear at times. Book learning, class learning, new
coordination skills, juggling work, getting through disappointing
lapses, trying again anyway.

It does not mean that all pilots are more mature, of course. There
are plenty of examples of the opposite around here daily. Certainly
Chuck Yeager wouldn't respond in the childish way many of them
do ;-) But this is the net, and I don't think we the outspoken are
really representative of the majority in the world... who are just
plain solid people with good judgement.

Kev

 




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