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When I was in military survival training, they showed us the picture of a
guy who died because he didn't have his hook knife. Landed in a tree, ended up hanging upside down, wrapped up in shroud lines. Had his hook knife with him, but had not secured it in the survival knife pocket of his flight suit with the supplied cord. He pulled it out, dropped it, couldn't reach it on the ground (just a few inches too far), and died before he could be rescued. Bill Daniels blithely speaks in a similar thread about being mostly worried about where to go for dinner and a beer: if he's not joking about that, then his level of denial is almost pathological. He badly needs to re-examine his assumptions. You've got to think worst case scenario, and then decide what you need to survive until you can get rescued or rescue yourself. For me, I've given a lot of thought to the topic, and hope I'm prepared. Respectfully, Bullwinkle On 3/2/07 10:12 PM, in article , "Wayne Paul" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 2, 11:18 am, "Go" wrote: -- Snip -- one question - a Benchmade rep stated that the Hook7 was made for "military and Para jumpers of all kinds". This implies to me that a hook knife would be carried at least by some parachutists. Is this the case? Steve, I have only needed to use a parachute once. It was back in 1970. Upon landing in the South China Sea and became entangled in the shroud lines, I cut myself free using a hook knife. In this case, simply releasing the harness wasn't sufficient to separate me from the chute. Wayne HP-14 "6F" http://www.soaridaho.com/ |
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Bullwinkle wrote:
When I was in military survival training, they showed us the picture of a guy who died because he didn't have his hook knife. Landed in a tree, ended up hanging upside down, wrapped up in shroud lines. Had his hook knife with him, but had not secured it in the survival knife pocket of his flight suit with the supplied cord. He pulled it out, dropped it, couldn't reach it on the ground (just a few inches too far), and died before he could be rescued. Bill Daniels blithely speaks in a similar thread about being mostly worried about where to go for dinner and a beer: if he's not joking about that, then his level of denial is almost pathological. He badly needs to re-examine his assumptions. You've got to think worst case scenario, and then decide what you need to survive until you can get rescued or rescue yourself. For me, I've given a lot of thought to the topic, and hope I'm prepared. I can think of a worse worst case scenario than that, given a little time. Probably would require full body armor and close air support to survive. ;-) Avoiding the need to hit the silk by having enough flight time,water and pee bags in the cockpit is by far the best preparation IMNSHO. Shawn |
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I agree and did not say you shouldn't carry one, just that it isn't the best to use in a high wind landing. It can be very handy indeed in a tree or water landing as others have posted. Also, parachute suspension lines are great for all sorts of things in a survival environment, if you have a way to cut them! Of course a rock or two would work as well. I don't think you could gut a rabbit with a hook knife though! I traded (comshawed) for my first parachute with a 20lb can of coffee at the loft at North Island Naval Air Station about 33 years ago. I still use the 550 suspension lines for stuff. You can get very inexpensive hook knives in a velcro pouch at your local drop zone. John 1PD/GO Another thought: When was the last time you did a complete pin check on your parachute rig guys? That should be part of your preflight. 'I understand what you're saying, Go, and I am prepared to collapse the canopy if and when I ever have to use it. I also realize that the hook knife probably won't save things if they ever get that dire. But, to me, it's kind of like wearing a parachute in the first place. You wouldn't want to need one and not have one. Therefore, since I already have the hook knife, I might as well carry it. Besides, if I ever land out in the boonies, it might be handy in snagging dinner! I do have one question - a Benchmade rep stated that the Hook7 was made for "military and Para jumpers of all kinds". This implies to me that a hook knife would be carried at least by some parachutists. Is this the case? Steve ' |
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On Mar 5, 12:21 am, "Ron (RW)" wrote:
On 1 Mar 2007 21:06:55 -0800, wrote: I recently purchased a hook knife to use while paragliding but I also intend to carry it when wearing my parachute in the sailplane. This will allow a chance of cutting free from the parachute after landing in extreme conditions. Some hook knives are better than others and I have learned that the hook knife of choice is made by Benchmade Knife Company,www.benchmade.com. I purchased the Hook7 but they make other hook knife designs that would work. I heard that hook knives that have double razor type blades can jam. The Hook7 has a single cutting edge that cannot be jammed. Steve Who manufactures The Delta Wing type Emergency chutes? Are they readily available? THNX 1RW Rigging Innovations. There are two versions(both square parachutes) depending on the pilots experience/training with modern parachutes. http://www.rigginginnovations.com/aviator.htm |
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Hi,
I found it, "cumshaw," in Wikipedia. Thanks. Nyal |
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