KC-767 ????

Jack G wrote:

A couple of DC-10's were lost due to problems with the thrust bearing - one
major crash at Chicago - I don't have a reference handy for the others.
Lots of people refused to fly on DC-10's after the Chicago crash - prompting
the bumper sticker "If it's not Boeing, I'm not going".

Jack


It had and apparently still has a bad reputation. A couple of highly
publicised crashes (due to different reasons) just after an aircraft
enters service seems to have that result. However, there is a big
difference between it having a bad public reputation and it actually
being a bad aircraft.
Hundreds of the things have operated without any major problems for
years. I don't know the exact figures, but I doubt its overall safety
record being much different from that of, say, the Boeing 747.

Regards,
Ralph Savelsberg

"Ralph Savelsberg" wrote in message
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Jack G wrote:

A couple of DC-10's were lost due to problems with the thrust bearing -
one
major crash at Chicago - I don't have a reference handy for the others.
Lots of people refused to fly on DC-10's after the Chicago crash -
prompting
the bumper sticker "If it's not Boeing, I'm not going".

Jack


It had and apparently still has a bad reputation. A couple of highly
publicised crashes (due to different reasons) just after an aircraft
enters service seems to have that result. However, there is a big
difference between it having a bad public reputation and it actually
being a bad aircraft.
Hundreds of the things have operated without any major problems for
years. I don't know the exact figures, but I doubt its overall safety
record being much different from that of, say, the Boeing 747.

Regards,
Ralph Savelsberg


From the statistics on the aviation safety site

http://aviation-safety.net/statistics/aircraft.html

It would seem the DC-10 has a better record than the Boeing 737-200
but worse than the 747, the MD-11 does better than the 747
but its a pretty safe aircraft overall.

Keith

Give me a break. They were changing engines with a _forklift_.
Design is not the issue. Inappropriate maintenance procedures are.

Considering that a forklift was used to raise and lower the engine and
pylon, I don't think design is much of an issue. I've never seen a
calibrated forklift. Nor have I seen one that was so precise it could
be used in spaces with tight tolerances.

We always removed and installed our engines on special engine carts,
not forklifts. The USAF and USN used the engine carts, not forklifts,
too. And Lockheed didn't use forklifts to change out L-1011 engines,
either.

As the corollary to Capt. Murphy's Law tells us: "Build something
that's foolproof and a bigger fool will come along."

Mary

--
Mary Shafer FIRED aerospace research engineer



Give me a break I specifically said that statement was from a engineering
website!!!!


http://www.tsgc.utexas.edu/archive/g...s/aacrash.html

Mary Shafer FIRED aerospace research engineer


Ok, I admit it, that was a cheap shot that Mary did'nt deserve, I apologize.
But alot of times Mary comes off as this almighty aviation guru. Sure, she is
very smart and knowlegable.
But as a licensed mechanic for over 20 years. I was a Navy mechanic,
ex-Lockheed, 2 years GA, and the last 12 years in the airlines. Me or any other
mechanic who spends anytime on the hangar floor, knows that engineers are very
far from the "real" aircraft. The days of Kelly Johnson were over along time
ago.
Todays engineers deal with paper airplanes, the only time you see them is
when something they designed, built or modify doesn't work or fit.
Overworked underpayed, who knows.
But when Mary comes off saying I've never seen this or I never seen that, or
the Navy doesn't do this or the Air Force does that.
Sorry Mary, unless your different from the 99.9% of the other engineers, you
only know what you read or maybe see on the hangar floor when your walking by
on your way to your office.
Because,,,, you don't know what really happens on the floor, unless your out
there turning a wrench.
When I was on the hangar deck Mary, we did what we had todo, yep I"VE seen a
J-52 stuff into an A-4E, via a froklift. Wrong?? you betcha.
Also, we mechanics are NOT allowed to deviated from the FAR's no matter
what!!
ALL deviations come via engineering approval.
When they screw up, you see the results.