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Would it have been easier to just post the link ?
http://avia.russian.ee/air/russia/kalinin_k-7.php

"Gene S. Park" wrote in message
...
The aircraft appears to be Soviet and similar to

Designed by World War I aviator Konstantin Kalinin with a wingspan greater
than a B-52's and a much greater wing area, the K-7 was one of the biggest
aircraft built before the jet age. It was only one engine short of the
B-52 as well, having the curious arrangement of six pulling on the wing
leading edge and one pushing at the rear.

The K-7's very brief first flight showed up instability and serious
vibration caused by the airframe resonating with the engine frequency. The
solution to this 'flutter' was thought to be to shorten and strengthen the
tail booms, little being known then about the natural frequencies of
structures and their response to vibration. On the 11th flight, during a
speed test, the port tailboom vibrated, fractured, jammed the elevator and
caused the giant aircraft to plough into the ground, killing 15.

Undaunted by this disaster, Kalinin's team began construction of two
further K-7s in a new factory, but the vicissitudes of Stalin's Russia saw
the project abandoned, and in 1938 the arrest and execution of Kalinin on
trumped up espionage and sabotage charges.

Seems they knew how to deal with their FEMA types.





"Blondie" wrote in message
news
Hello All,

Downloaded these pics and was wondering if this aircraft actually
existed.
By the looks of its' mammoth size I think it is actually a very detailed
drawing. It looks like it has a wingspan wider than the Spruce Goose!
If this were an actual aircraft that had been constructed I am sure it
would have been in many TV documentaries.

Yello







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Here's are links with more pictures and drawings of the K-7 including
pictures of the full-scale mockup.

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bww1/k7.html

http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/k7.html


"Blondie" wrote in message
news
Hello All,

Downloaded these pics and was wondering if this aircraft actually existed.
By the looks of its' mammoth size I think it is actually a very detailed
drawing. It looks like it has a wingspan wider than the Spruce Goose!
If this were an actual aircraft that had been constructed I am sure it
would have been in many TV documentaries.

Yello







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A very interesting article about the designer and his plane can be read
here...
www.wumag.kiev.ua/index2.php?param=pgs20041/92

Andrew




"bob" wrote in message news:sW85i.25008$xu.18635@trndny07...
Here's are links with more pictures and drawings of the K-7 including
pictures of the full-scale mockup.

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bww1/k7.html

http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/k7.html


"Blondie" wrote in message
news
Hello All,

Downloaded these pics and was wondering if this aircraft actually
existed.
By the looks of its' mammoth size I think it is actually a very detailed
drawing. It looks like it has a wingspan wider than the Spruce Goose!
If this were an actual aircraft that had been constructed I am sure it
would have been in many TV documentaries.

Yello







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I don't know, would it have? You may tell me since you are such a brilliant
techie. Us old folks just try do the best we can.



"Ric" wrote in message
u...
Would it have been easier to just post the link ?
http://avia.russian.ee/air/russia/kalinin_k-7.php

"Gene S. Park" wrote in message
...
The aircraft appears to be Soviet and similar to

Designed by World War I aviator Konstantin Kalinin with a wingspan
greater than a B-52's and a much greater wing area, the K-7 was one of
the biggest aircraft built before the jet age. It was only one engine
short of the B-52 as well, having the curious arrangement of six pulling
on the wing leading edge and one pushing at the rear.

The K-7's very brief first flight showed up instability and serious
vibration caused by the airframe resonating with the engine frequency.
The solution to this 'flutter' was thought to be to shorten and
strengthen the tail booms, little being known then about the natural
frequencies of structures and their response to vibration. On the 11th
flight, during a speed test, the port tailboom vibrated, fractured,
jammed the elevator and caused the giant aircraft to plough into the
ground, killing 15.

Undaunted by this disaster, Kalinin's team began construction of two
further K-7s in a new factory, but the vicissitudes of Stalin's Russia
saw the project abandoned, and in 1938 the arrest and execution of
Kalinin on trumped up espionage and sabotage charges.

Seems they knew how to deal with their FEMA types.





"Blondie" wrote in message
news
Hello All,

Downloaded these pics and was wondering if this aircraft actually
existed.
By the looks of its' mammoth size I think it is actually a very detailed
drawing. It looks like it has a wingspan wider than the Spruce Goose!
If this were an actual aircraft that had been constructed I am sure it
would have been in many TV documentaries.

Yello







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Ric wrote:
Would it have been easier to just post the link ?
http://avia.russian.ee/air/russia/kalinin_k-7.php

"Gene S. Park" wrote in message
...
The aircraft appears to be Soviet and similar to

Designed by World War I aviator Konstantin Kalinin with a wingspan greater
than a B-52's and a much greater wing area, the K-7 was one of the biggest
aircraft built before the jet age. It was only one engine short of the
B-52 as well, having the curious arrangement of six pulling on the wing
leading edge and one pushing at the rear.

The K-7's very brief first flight showed up instability and serious
vibration caused by the airframe resonating with the engine frequency. The
solution to this 'flutter' was thought to be to shorten and strengthen the
tail booms, little being known then about the natural frequencies of
structures and their response to vibration. On the 11th flight, during a
speed test, the port tailboom vibrated, fractured, jammed the elevator and
caused the giant aircraft to plough into the ground, killing 15.

Undaunted by this disaster, Kalinin's team began construction of two
further K-7s in a new factory, but the vicissitudes of Stalin's Russia saw
the project abandoned, and in 1938 the arrest and execution of Kalinin on
trumped up espionage and sabotage charges.

Seems they knew how to deal with their FEMA types.





"Blondie" wrote in message
news
Hello All,

Downloaded these pics and was wondering if this aircraft actually
existed.
By the looks of its' mammoth size I think it is actually a very detailed
drawing. It looks like it has a wingspan wider than the Spruce Goose!
If this were an actual aircraft that had been constructed I am sure it
would have been in many TV documentaries.

Yello


Mr Park is doing us all a favor by trying to make a post as complete as
possible. Besides, his comment about the FEMA types is delicious.
Ahhhh for the days of brick walls and machine guns with an inexhaustible
supplies of bullets. "To the Wall, Enemies of the People!".

Cheers,

Dave

Peter Dohm wrote:
"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message
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The Raven wrote:
"Blondie" wrote in message
news Hello All,

Downloaded these pics and was wondering if this aircraft actually
existed.
By the looks of its' mammoth size I think it is actually a very
detailed
drawing. It looks like it has a wingspan wider than the Spruce Goose!
If this were an actual aircraft that had been constructed I am sure it
would have been in many TV documentaries.

The B&W pic looks like it could be real but the rest appear to be scaled
up
CGI representations (with extra engines).

Would make for an exciting R/C aircraft, assuming someone could afford
all
those engines.


Yes indeed now that you mention it. The b&w photo looks like some
Italian creation from the late 1930's.

On an r/c would you be able to use those high torque electric motors? I
know zip about modern r/c building and other stuff. My sole experience
with any kind of model airplane was back around 1956. I think it had a
fox engine and made a hell of a lot of noise, and I flew it with these
nylon lines attached to a handle. I met it's demise one day when my
best buddy Roger Craft was flying it and it went into the back of his
dad's new car. Now that wasn't pretty ...

Cheers,

Dave

Oooof. That sounds like a crash leading up to a crash. :-(

Peter




Let's just say that it was Memorable. Now the events following the day
Roger and I took a joy-ride in his dad's new Buick convertible a few
years later was .... "remarkable and unforgettable". I think I
developed my love of flying from heading down Madison avenue in San
Diego, CA in the Buick.

Cheers,

Dave
CWO4 USA (Ret)

"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message
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Ric wrote:
Would it have been easier to just post the link ?
http://avia.russian.ee/air/russia/kalinin_k-7.php

"Gene S. Park" wrote in message
...
The aircraft appears to be Soviet and similar to

Designed by World War I aviator Konstantin Kalinin with a wingspan
greater
than a B-52's and a much greater wing area, the K-7 was one of the
biggest
aircraft built before the jet age. It was only one engine short of the
B-52 as well, having the curious arrangement of six pulling on the wing
leading edge and one pushing at the rear.

The K-7's very brief first flight showed up instability and serious
vibration caused by the airframe resonating with the engine frequency.
The
solution to this 'flutter' was thought to be to shorten and strengthen
the
tail booms, little being known then about the natural frequencies of
structures and their response to vibration. On the 11th flight, during
a
speed test, the port tailboom vibrated, fractured, jammed the elevator
and
caused the giant aircraft to plough into the ground, killing 15.

Undaunted by this disaster, Kalinin's team began construction of two
further K-7s in a new factory, but the vicissitudes of Stalin's Russia
saw
the project abandoned, and in 1938 the arrest and execution of Kalinin
on
trumped up espionage and sabotage charges.

Seems they knew how to deal with their FEMA types.





"Blondie" wrote in message
news Hello All,

Downloaded these pics and was wondering if this aircraft actually
existed.
By the looks of its' mammoth size I think it is actually a very
detailed
drawing. It looks like it has a wingspan wider than the Spruce Goose!
If this were an actual aircraft that had been constructed I am sure it
would have been in many TV documentaries.

Yello


Mr Park is doing us all a favor by trying to make a post as complete as
possible. Besides, his comment about the FEMA types is delicious.
Ahhhh for the days of brick walls and machine guns with an inexhaustible
supplies of bullets. "To the Wall, Enemies of the People!".

Cheers,

Dave

Yes. Most enjoyable.

Peter

How about this one?



"Blondie" wrote in message
news
Hello All,

Downloaded these pics and was wondering if this aircraft actually existed.
By the looks of its' mammoth size I think it is actually a very detailed
drawing. It looks like it has a wingspan wider than the Spruce Goose!
If this were an actual aircraft that had been constructed I am sure it
would have been in many TV documentaries.

Yello







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On Wed, 23 May 2007 17:32:38 -0700, John Meyer
wrote:

The photo shows the Kalinin K-7. It did fly fairly OK but was destroyed
in a crash: Lookee he
http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/k-7.html

The other images are kinda cool. A scaled-up fantasy version. Pretty
convincing. They'd be even more convincing if the concrete tarmac were
replaced by grass. Where do they come from?

Thanks for a shot of the "real" plane. Do my eyes decieve me, or is
that thing running *wooden* propellors!?

"Panic" wrote in
:

How about this one?


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